Vance Stevens and Jeff Lebow look into what is going on with HoA, and what to do about it

Learning2gether episode 342

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On Sunday Aug 28 Vance Stevens asked perennial online buddy  Jeff Lebow to join him to help check out what is going on with HoA, and what to do about it. We scheduled the event in Hangout on Air but just before show time encountered debilitating sound issues. Fortunately Jeff had been been experimenting with YouTube Live to the point where he had tested out the encoders, and he was able to bring his past experience webcasting-the-hard-way to bear on a solution that saved the show by bringing participants together in a combination of streaming YouTube + Skype for voice conversation.

Vance used Camtasia to record the YouTube stream and Skype audio that Jeff was streaming in one part of the screen, with the text chat from in the other, as you can see on YouTube

Jeff’s stream recording went directly onto YouTube and can be viewed here:

In the recordings, enjoy Webheads, Worldbridges, and Learning2gether flying by our signature seat-of-our-pants.

When Jeff and Vance encountered the sound problems on HoA prior to the show, we test-connected on Skype to see if the fault lay with Internet bandwidth, or with HoA. We got clear audio, suggesting the problem was with HoA.

Jeff had just prior to that posted what he called Plan C at and through that interface already in place he was able to stream on YouTube Live (the replacement for HoA after Sept 12, 2016). Those who came to were able to hear the stream and text chat with us in Chatwing at So we were able to  bring participants into the Skype call through instructions given in the stream and text chat.

My apologies that I was unable to communicate this at our various web sites at the time (not enough fingers nor brain cells) but we did get recordings, mine in Camtasia and Jeff’s Plan C, which at the moment is still posted at (and when we need that space to announce our next event, what’s there now will be archived).

There is an event / conversation page here, though the HoA was never “started”
Google+ event page:

Visitors to our launch pages were informed that they would find the Hangout video streaming embed (never started) but also the Chatwing text embed where they could chat with us on that page while watching the stream, or simply visit and chat with us live there. This allowed those who joined us in text chat to learn how they could come to Skype and join our voice conversation, which Jeff had cleverly added to the YouTube Live audio stream.

In this way we managed in the end to hang out (if not in HoA) with, in addition to Vance and Jeff

  • Peggy George
  • Rita Zeinstejer
  • Vanessa Vaile
  • Benjamin Stewart
  • John DeBruyn

As usual Peggy contributed helpful links to the text chat, which I’ve copy/pasted to Google Docs to create “show notes” and shared here

What instigated all of this?

Google has announced that Hangouts on Air will no longer function as such after Sept 12, 2016. According to

“Hangouts On Air will move from Google+ to YouTube Live on September 12. If you want to schedule new Hangouts On Air you will need to use YouTube Live. Events cannot be scheduled on Google+ after September 12 and you will need to move existing events scheduled to happen after September 12 to YouTube Live.”

What does this mean for us? According to Alan Levine, not much as long as you avoid “encoder land” (or so it had seemed when we read Alan’s article, though Jeff braved encoder land and managed to pull off our event successfully). Find Alan’s article here:

Jeff had already sent me a plan B which I had posted to our launch pages before the event:

And in the hour I had running up to the event, I had tried things out myself and made this slide show which I intend to update with better information. The updates will appear here:

Meanwhile, Rose Bard showed me this which looks to be a pretty good run-through of how to stream in YouTube


Earlier this last couple of weeks

Learning2gether episode 341 Sun Aug 14 1230 UTC with Alexander Hayes about the Null Hypothesis: On Country, Cyborgs and the Singularity


Wed Aug 17 0300 UTC Pedagogy Now – Start of Fall 2016 workshops announced by Lisa Lane

Fall 2016 workshops

POTonlineThe Dark Side of OEI
Tuesday, August 16 — 8 pm PT Online

Workshop description: The Online Education Initiative promises to bring all California community colleges together into a common LMS, common rubrics and common goals for online teaching. In doing so, however, some important aspects of creativity may be sacrificed, including joyful complexity, pedagogical independence, tolerance in leadership, and alternative visions. Critiquing such a system is the point of this presentation. A Program for Online Teaching workshop with Jim Sullivan and Lisa M Lane.

Join us at CCCConfer:

POTsmgraphiconlyCreative Online Teaching Forum
Thursday, Aug 18 10-11:20 am SAN campus 407 and Online

Workshop description: Ideas and thoughts for making your online classes less canned and more interesting for you and your students. What can instructors do to work within and outside of a LMS to create interesting, creative, and interactive online learning environments? The conversation here will cover grading, student curation of learning, and many other techniques, and will engage with the POT discussion from the Spring of 2016 on creativity in online teaching as a means to expand pedagogy. A Program for Online Teaching workshop with Lisa M. Lane and Joanne Carrubba.
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POTsmgraphiconlyPedagogy and the new LMS: Painting on the Canvas
Thursday, Aug 18  12:30-1:50  pm OC campus 3608

Workshop description: Starting Spring 2017, MiraCosta College is adopting Canvas as one of the supported CMSs.  For a year and a half, Canvas will run parallel with Bb and Moodle, after which there will only be Canvas.  What are some of the potential pedagogical upsides (and downsides) of Canvas, that are worthwhile considering for when you move your course to Canvas?  This is not a “how to” workshop – but rather a structured conversation among peers, providing examples and emphasizing dialogue. A Program for Online Teaching workshop with Robert Kelley.

Sat Aug 27 1600 UTC Classroom 2.0 Rebecca Hare and Dr. Robert Dillon on Hacking Learning Space Design

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Show Times this time of year are 1600 UTC
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Saturday, August 27, 2016
The Space: Thoughts, Ideas, Hacks on Learning Space Design with Rebecca Hare and Dr. Robert DillonJoin us on Saturday, August 27th, when our special guests will be Dr. Robert Dillon and Rebecca Hare.With the start of a new school year across the U.S. as well as other places around the world, teachers are excitedly preparing to welcome their new students and are eagerly creating their classrooms and learning environments to make them inviting, inspiring places for students to learn and grow this year. You won’t want to miss this week’s webinar with our special guest presenters, Dr. Robert Dillon and Rebecca Hare, who have some really important, valuable ideas and resources to share to get us moving towards this goal. If you teach, you are a learning space designer. This webinar will explore the influence of the physical, and digital, space on our learners and provide practical tips on how to design your space with intention.Rebecca Hare is an Industrial Designer and Educator who has co-designed more than 20 spaces with teachers and students. Dr. Robert Dillon is an educational leader and current Director of Innovative Learning at the School District of University City, St. Louis, Missouri who collaborates with schools across the country to change spaces, technology, and pedagogy to enhance learning.What are the first steps to transform your learning spaces? What should you look for and where should you spend money, and where should you save it. Which types of environments are worth creating? Who should be engaged in the process? And finally, how can you create and cultivate a community that will create and continue to improve upon the spaces our learners need?Remember to follow us on Twitter: #liveclass20More information and session details are at If you’re new to the Classroom 2.0 LIVE! show you might want to spend a few minutes viewing the screencast on the homepage to learn how we use Blackboard Collaborate, and navigate the site. Each show begins at 12pm Eastern (GMT-5) and may be accessed in Blackboard Collaborate directly using the following Classroom 2.0 LIVE! link at All webinars are closed captioned.On the Classroom 2.0 LIVE! site ( you’ll find the recordings and Livebinder from our recent “ Amazing Digital Projects for All Students with Google Tools” session with our August Featured Teacher: Matt Bergman. Click on the Archives and Resources tab.Classroom 2.0 LIVE Team: Peggy George, Lorie Moffat, Tammy Moore, Paula Naugle, Steve Hargadon

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