hLearning2gether Episode 467
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THIS IS A WORK IN PROGRESS, AWAITING OTHER COMPONENTS

An Inside Look into CALL Professional Development in Iran

Dr. Marandi’s invitation …

This Wednesday (May 27) at noon GMT/UTC, we will be meeting up at my online PhD CALL class at Alzahra University in Tehran, so you can get an insider’s look at what CALL professional development looks like in the Iranian context.   The session will be held on Adobe Connect at the following location, and will be co-hosted by Laine Marshall and myself.  Shout out to Laine for co-hosting and to Vance for helping with the arrangements.  🙂

I look forward to welcoming you to Alzahra University in Iran!  🙂

Where? in Adobe Connect
Recording link and possibly mp4 forthcoming

But the event was also STREAMED

You can watch such streams here, https://www.youtube.com/c/VanceStevens/live
And you can find the links to this stream recording (2h 04min) at:

• https://youtu.be/VZe4P35mQME
• or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZe4P35mQME
• and embedded below

Vance’s comments:

In preparation for this session, I needed to visit Susan’s Adobe Connect earlier in the day in order to get her Adobe Connect window open on my computer so that I could configure my OBS (Open Broadcasting Software) to record it in synch with my mic and the computer sound card audio, so as to have it all working properly when I would start the stream later that day. I serendipitously found Susan in Adobe Connect and in contact with her students who were at that time preparing for their upcoming event, and she granted me entry to the class she was teaching.

In these connections with only my video at a distance, and Susan’s and sometimes her students videos (they were preparing their sound and audio in order to be able to connect seamlessly with video and audio when we met later on) we experienced issues with noticable lag (e.g. in my asking if she could hear me and then getting her thumbs up many seconds later) and times when the audio would cut out entirely for many seconds at a time, and the video would freeze.

However, things were working well enough that I could take questions from the students. They asked about my problem solving process, and I told them that in order to make things work you have to try them out, encounter problems, analyze their cause, and figure out how to fix them. Failure, in this process, is a desireable outcome. If you don’t fail in your process of learning, then you’re doing something you already know how to do; you’re not learning how to do something you want to learn how to do.

One student asked me a very intriguing question, one that I was mulling over before getting out of bed this morning, and decided to make it my first order of business today to answer here in greater detail. When the students found out that I had started working with computers as a medium for language learning in 1979, over 40 years ago, one of them asked me what drew me to computers at that time.

They had all grown up taking  computers for granted as being ubiquitously present in their lives, but I obviously had not. Indeed the Apple II was first released in California in 1977, opening up for the first time the possibility of personal computing for everyone outside a small coterie of hobbyists of whom Jobs and Wozniak became, in that move, the most prominent.

I’ll save the details for later, but I told them I had been one of a small but growing coterie in TESOL who had seen computers as being what had been missing in our attempts to learn foreign languages, and also to teach them, both of which we had been doing as best we could, as creatively and energetically as possible, with the “traditional” resources available to us up to that point. One problem with traditional methods was that they were slow and painstaking in execution, involving redundant tasks that computers, with their inherent interative processes, could help cut down on (can you imagine having students write out multiple drafts of compostions freehand, for example – of course students had more time for that, they weren’t checking Facebook or Whatsapp or Instagram every ten minutes).

There is no doubt that computers have made us more productive in shorter time, and expanded our horizons for creativity, for both teachers and students. I told them for insights into my thinking at that time, check out my early papers, which they could find in full text and online, at http://vancestevens.com/papers/.

So this morning I’ve curated four of those papers which make the points I could not really convey in the few moments I had available, at the time, to come up with a brief answer to a question that a student had asked in an online class that I had just interrupted.

Among the many papers I produced in the first ten years of my work with CALL, I think that these most concisely address the question, what caused me and many like-minded colleagues to feel so strongly that computers had such great potential for language learning and teaching, and the corollary to that question, why were so many of my colleagues at the time so resitant to using computers in those early days?

• Stevens, V. 1984. Can CAI be evaluated? TESOL Newsletter 18, 1:16,18.Stevens, V. (1984). TESOL Newsletter Can CAI be evaluated. Available: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pwNK8pypMIG8S-6r92bPdJMPurBaJfLulLleirRQ2jM/edit?usp=sharing
• Stevens, V. (1985). Making the new medium stick: A look at CALL. A paper presented at the Computer-Assisted Language Learning Interest Section academic session at the 19th annual TESOL convention, New York. Available: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mAv3PiZN_MwJhq50Fw_6na5jxIiWo5DE48n4XXwMfQ4/edit?usp=sharing
• Stevens, Vance. 1988. Misconception and misuse in CALL. C.A.L.L. Digest 4, 4:2-3. Available: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1B-JnAXMXs1zgCM–1hkfiwTTgx1msgVEkMsdpyaS7C8/edit?usp=sharing
• Stevens, Vance. 1989. A direction for CALL: From behavioristic to humanistic courseware. In Pennington, Martha (Ed.). Teaching languages with computers: The state of the art. La Jolla, CA: Athelstan Press. Available: http://www.vancestevens.com/papers/archive/1989behaviorist2humanistic.pdf
  Also on ResearchGate: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/292710752_A_direction_for_CALL_From_behavioristic_to_humanistic_courseware

The first paper from 1984 was written in the year of the TESOL conference in Toronto where a symposium on CALL had been convened which led to its participants proposing the formation of a Computer-assisted Language Learning interest section in TESOL.  I was elected to be associate chair of the new CALL-IS, but it was not until the following year, in Houston, Texas, that we were able to usher our proposal through TESOL’s bureaucracy and get it accepted. By that time the person elected chair had dropped out, and I was appointed the first official chair of the now-official CALL-IS in TESOL.

The second paper was delivered at that conference and would have been meant not only as a position paper addressed to those who were trying to form the new CALL-IS, but also to help persuade those skeptical of our position to come over to our side.

The other two papers show where we had got to over the next five years in CALL-IS, the end of my first decade in using computers with language learners.

One challenge for CALL development in Iran, especially regarding connecting with colleagues at a distance, is lack of opportunities to try things out in live webinars such as the one Susan had proposed. Susan’s students clearly have a lot to offer and are doing an exceptional job in constrained circumstances. This was perhaps one of their first attempts at taking their class onto a world stage, and they were experimenting with as many tools as they had learned in their CALL courses. By way of analogy, they were throwing spaghetti on the wall to see what would stick, but that’s how you learn to make good spaghetti. Now that we know more about their issues we can hopefully work further with them to help them improve and overcome some of the technical issues you might notice in the video.

I’ve posted here the recording of the video I streamed using Open Broadcast Software (OBS). I believe the streamed recording would be succeptible to the same bandwidth degradations faced in the online event itself. However, the local Adobe Connect recording might have preserved more sound packets intact and might give a smoother experience. If Susan is able to provide us the link to it, then we can post it here, and check it and see.

I think Susan and her team from Iran were very brave in undertaking this challenge despite the possibility of participants having to sip from a glass only half full. The part that came through to us gave an interesting indication of what students and their professor have been able to accomplish despite so many limitations in their context.

More interactions like this will be the way forward for them, and I’m happy that they chose, Webheads, Learning2gether, and TALIN as a crucible in which to practice and perform their experiments.

Promotion and Feedback

This event was posted to these Facebook Groups

• Learning2gether – https://www.facebook.com/groups/learning2gether/
• Webheads in Action – https://www.facebook.com/groups/webheadsinaction/
• EVO Multiliteracies MOOC – https://www.facebook.com/groups/evomlit/
• Learning with Computers – https://www.facebook.com/groups/6577061586/
• TALIN – Teaching and Learning in IsolatioN – https://www.facebook.com/groups/talin2020

And announced here: https://groups.io/g/webheadsinaction/message/32629

and on LinkedIn, https://www.linkedin.com/posts/vancestevens_adobe-connect-login-activity-6670925467605958659-UxqF

and tweeted: https://twitter.com/VanceS/status/1265495431875899394

Chat Logs

I’m not sure if we’ll have chat logs from this one, unless Susan is able to provide them. Meanwhile, here is a snippet:

More about TALIN

TALIN stands for Teaching and Learning in IsolatioN, https://tinyurl.com/talin2020

The idea for TALIN was prompted by suggestions in numerous cross-fertilizing communities of practice that there was needed a space where members of these CoPs could meet online and talk informally to one another about how they are dealing with changes in their personal and professional contexts and what they are doing to help others in this trying time of pandemic.

Learning2gether can host TALIN events in Zoom during times of isolation/lockdown if they are intended to be recorded and shared with the wider community, and if they take place between 02:00-14:00 UTC

TALIN events here are open to all and free to attend.

If you would like to propose an event or invite others to meet in conversation

1. Visit this page https://tinyurl.com/talin2020
2. Click on “Request Edit Access” to the left of your profile picture at the top of the page
3. Wait for approval
4. Write in your event on the schedule. Give the time in UTC if you can, and give the time in your location also as a double check on time

You can host the event yourself, but if you want Learning2gether to host it and promote it, please allow enough time to check that I am available, at least a few days in advance.

At the Virtual Round Table Conference May 8-9, 2020, Vance provided even more about TALIN here:
https://bit.ly/talin2020 and https://youtu.be/iOYPkmWPAiY

Earlier Events

Sun 24 May noon UTC – Webheads Revival Weekly Sunday Meeting number 9

https://learning2gether.net/2020/05/24/zoom-recording-of-the-may-24-2020-webheads-revival-weekly-sunday-meeting-number-9/

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Learning2gether Episode 466
9th Webheads Revival
and TALIN event #21

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Another Sunday rolled around so on May 24 at the usual time of noon UTC, members of the Webheads in Action community of practice gathered for the latest Webheads Revival Weekly Sunday Meeting, number 9

I (Vance) had recently learned how to stream Zoom into YouTube, although ‘learned’ is not quite the right word, more like watching a video walk-through, about 2 minutes, and then you think you know how to do it, and then you do it, and then it works (I think the correct expression would be, ‘I was trained’ how to do it). There was one trick to streaming to YouTube so you don’t grant Zoom the right to control your channels and delete all your videos, but I’ll address that in a later webinar, maybe next week.

As usual we talked about whatever those present wanted to talk about. I don’t try to contol this, and Doris took over talking about the very interesting online teaching she is doing from Jujuy, Argentina, involving students as far away as Germany, and now she wants to hook up with students from China to balance her mix. Sandip chimed in and said he would be interested in contibuting to the Pucara de Tilcara Episode from Maharashtra (see the chatlogs for the link). So the conversation went iike that, very relaxed, these Sunday meetings.

I had been preparing to talk about Zoom security and streaming. With Heike’s help we’ve been tightening up Zoom security and I had just recently figured out how to stream from Zoom into YouTube for her Virtual Campus tour in OpenSim,
https://learning2gether.net/2020/05/22/heike-philp-conducts-a-workshop-at-her-virtual-campus-in-opensim/

Today I tried it out on FB just to see how it works. It worked fine and it produced a video with the following link (this one, posted to a group, has no embed code): https://www.facebook.com/groups/webheadsinaction/permalink/10158153029478536/ 

Meanwhile, Heike and Vance have produced two documents that I may try to introduce next week:

• Heike Philp has prepared a comprehensive document entitled
  Zoom bombing – how to be prepared and how to prevent it
  Anyone with this link can view it
  https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v2M2aKdEX07JvAL3BWEqrmiXyEzy87l4FApTLSZUQ9s/edit?usp=sharing
• I have created a document called A detailed look at your Personal Zoom Meeting Settings, where I copy/pasted images of my Personal Zoom Meeting Settings and annotated them to show why certain settings were invoked. The document can be commented on by anyone with its link, and I would welcomes suggestions and comments on my choices, since that’s how we learn:
  https://docs.google.com/document/d/12cNCX-aWOLs7mJNDLybXlrbIqFE74anIywRhUV-XtQ4/edit?usp=sharing

This event was posted to these Facebook Groups

• Learning2gether – https://www.facebook.com/groups/learning2gether/
• Webheads in Action – https://www.facebook.com/groups/webheadsinaction/
• EVO Multiliteracies MOOC – https://www.facebook.com/groups/evomlit/
• Learning with Computers – https://www.facebook.com/groups/6577061586/
• TALIN – Teaching and Learning in IsolatioN – https://www.facebook.com/groups/talin2020

And announced here: https://groups.io/g/webheadsinaction/message/32617

Here was a test run I did on Facebook prior to the event (this one, posted to my timeline, has an embed code, but WordPress does not accept it):
https://www.facebook.com/vance.stevens.3/videos/10158242975354719/

There seems to be the solution to embedding Facebook videos to an HTML document. However, in WordPress, whereas I have full access to the HTML code for each page, I have no access to thetag.

To use the Embedded Video Player Plugin, or any other Social Plugin, you need to add the Facebook JavaScript SDK to your website. You need to load the SDK only once on a page, ideally right after the opening tag \

An illustrative graphic follows; for the graphic and full instructions see https://developers.facebook.com/docs/plugins/embedded-video-player/

Zoom Chat Logs

20:04:17 From Doris Molero- Jujuy, Argentine : Besitos!!
20:05:42 From Nina Liakos : Hi Doris!
20:12:47 From Graham Stanley : https://www.cambridgeenglish.org/learning-english/free-resources/virtually-anywhere/ (responding to a free resource that was mentioned in the discussion)
20:15:08 From Heike Philp, Germany : happy to chime in Doris, we have anthropologists in Berlin who are in SL
20:17:38 From Heike Philp, Germany : yes pls
20:21:01 From sandip jadhav : This is sandip from India. Doris’s project sounds interesting. I am available from India if you could think about Indian archeological sites
20:21:29 From Vance Stevens – Penang : hi Sandeep, you can speak to us if you like
20:21:49 From sandip jadhav : sure
20:25:12 From Chris Fry Barcelona : I wanted to show how incredible the closed captions are in Google Meet, which I saw in action a couple of weeks ago on a webinar by Derek White. so I tried to start a meeting on my phone, but of course it refused to start until I logged out of Zoom. Once it started up it produced pretty good captions of what Doris was saying!
20:26:44 From Vance Stevens – Penang : interesting, I don’t know if they are following the text chat, but when I can get a word in …

20:29:21 From Heike Philp, Germany to Vance Stevens – Penang(Privately) : hi Vance, pls promote me to co-host
20:30:07 From Heike Philp, Germany to Vance Stevens – Penang(Privately) : thanks there was some noise
20:35:13 From Heike Philp, Germany : hi Chris, how can we see your CC caption?
20:36:45 From Vance Stevens – Penang :  The simulcast is being streamed here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/webheadsinaction/
20:37:03 From Doris Molero- Jujuy, Argentine : This is where my students are building the Pucara de Tilcara Episode. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1p15acwEqrZMmpaEVznkl3Dl0XzE49_MAFt3UCcy-YzM/edit?usp=sharing
20:38:18 From Chris Fry Barcelona : Heineken, the cc on a phone are small, but on a computer they are very visible. On my Android phone I use the app, but on my PC, it works in a browser (I’ve deliberately left the Android autocorrect rendition of Heike’s name here to anyone listening to the audio will understand why I started calling Heike ‘Heineken’ after that – ed.)
20:39:15 From Heike Philp, Germany : no commentary on fb
20:39:18 From Heike Philp, Germany : haha
20:39:35 From Heike Philp, Germany : lol
20:41:33 From Chris Fry Barcelona : I’m afraid I must go. Lunch calls. See you next week
20:42:55 From Heike Philp, Germany : I am wondering Chris, whether you can be the cc-caption person

20:44:21 From Heike Philp, Germany : https://www.facebook.com/groups/webheadsinaction/
20:50:36 From Doris Molero- Jujuy, Argentine : doris3m (at) gmail.com
20:51:02 From Heike Philp, Germany : virtually anywhere
20:51:04 From Heike Philp, Germany : hehe
20:57:46 From Heike Philp, Germany : thank you
20:59:05 From Heike Philp, Germany : wonderful
20:59:33 From Heike Philp, Germany : Sibel Baytur Sezer I live in Turkey. It’s the same here. Everyone’s going online in this or that way, in their own way.
20:59:43 From Heike Philp, Germany : this was a comment from fb
21:01:51 From sandip jadhav : sandipzpauranganad2010 (at) gmail.com
21:02:13 From sandip jadhav : sandip_3689

More about TALIN

TALIN stands for Teaching and Learning in IsolatioN, https://tinyurl.com/talin2020

The idea for TALIN was prompted by suggestions in numerous cross-fertilizing communities of practice that there was needed a space where members of these CoPs could meet online and talk informally to one another about how they are dealing with changes in their personal and professional contexts and what they are doing to help others in this trying time of pandemic.

Learning2gether can host TALIN events in Zoom during times of isolation/lockdown if they are intended to be recorded and shared with the wider community, and if they take place between 02:00-14:00 UTC

TALIN events here are open to all and free to attend.

If you would like to propose an event or invite others to meet in conversation

1. Visit this page https://tinyurl.com/talin2020
2. Click on “Request Edit Access” to the left of your profile picture at the top of the page
3. Wait for approval
4. Write in your event on the schedule. Give the time in UTC if you can, and give the time in your location also as a double check on time

You can host the event yourself, but if you want Learning2gether to host it and promote it, please allow enough time to check that I am available, at least a few days in advance.

After the Virtual Round Table Conference May 8-9, 2020, there’s even more about TALIN here:
https://bit.ly/talin2020 and https://youtu.be/iOYPkmWPAiY

Earlier Events

Fri 22 May noon UTC – Heike Philp conducted a Virtual Campus tour in OpenSim – simulcast in Zoom

https://learning2gether.net/2020/05/22/heike-philp-conducts-a-workshop-at-her-virtual-campus-in-opensim/

Fri 22 May 1400 UTC Nik Peachey spoke at an online International Webinar

Nik said on Facebook that he was very honored to be speaking at this event … Should be interesting (apologies for the rather old, or should I say young picture of myself) Come along: https://eu.bbcollab.com/guest/b35b3422fb4b4698a7d6f46568ddae1a

Here was Nik’s presentation
https://view.genial.ly/5ec53d969a5fac0d9c091294

Sat 23 May 1300-1500 utc – VSTE Second Life Saturdays – repeats each Saturday

If you don’t have a Second Life account get one, it’s free. We recommend setting one up at the Rockcliffe University Consortium’s Gateway here: https://urockcliffe.com/reg/second-life/

Download and install the software. While your Second Life viewer (software) is open click this link http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Soulgiver/155/144/58

and voila! Look for an avatar on VSTE Island and say, “Hey, I’m new!” We will take care of the rest.

About this intitiative, https://vste.org/upcoming-events-virtual-environments-pln/

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The date of this update is May 26, 2020 00:30 UTC

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Learning2gether Episode 465
and TALIN event #20

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For Learning2gether episode #465, TALIN webinar #20 on May 22, 2020
Heike Philp conducted a Virtual Campus tour in OpenSim
on YouTube, recorded in Zoom, at https://youtu.be/-U9Vr6QWE9k

This virtual campus has been set up by Heike Philp for a German university. It is hosted by Kitely and allows for students and faculty members to socialize, build and enjoy an immersive teaching and learning space which is different to Zoom. It is planned to open the islands to student cohorts before the end of May.  I would like to encourage TALIN event participants to join the OpenSim space and to experiment with building. Eventually I would like to build an Escape the Room game on the island.

Details on how to enter OpenSim are given in this document
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Tdem12n5DcvuSNo42t3LVhq69D3-MEK3rqonp_gqcoY/edit?usp=sharing

If you can reach the HMKW campus in OpenSim, Heike will guide you in building objects there. So that all participants will be able to hear these instructions, OpenSim will be shared in Zoom, which is where conversation will take place. So if you can reach HMKW in OpenSim, you could build according to instructions in either Zoom or YouTube, but you would only be able to ask questions in Zoom.

This event was posted to these Facebook Groups 

• Learning2gether – https://www.facebook.com/groups/learning2gether/
• Webheads in Action – https://www.facebook.com/groups/webheadsinaction/
• EVO Multiliteracies MOOC – https://www.facebook.com/groups/evomlit/
• Learning with Computers – https://www.facebook.com/groups/6577061586/
• TALIN – Teaching and Learning in IsolatioN – https://www.facebook.com/groups/talin2020

And announced here as a calendar event: https://groups.io/g/webheadsinaction/message/32605

On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/vancestevens_volunteersneeded-activity-6668730241231536128-JYNB

and on Twitter https://twitter.com/VanceS/status/1263742868067192833

The event was streamed
https://www.youtube.com/c/VanceStevens/live

I believe this was the raw streamed video link, https://youtu.be/s6lnP1LfPuQ

Zoom Chat Logs

Not much here today, but a lot to see in the video

20:03:02 From NahirDesk : hllooo
20:03:20 From NahirDesk : I am getting ready
20:12:27 From Heike Philp : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMOOG7rWTPg&feature=youtu.be
20:49:14 From Heike Philp : Cospaces
20:49:39 From Heike Philp : https://cospaces.io/edu/

More about TALIN

TALIN stands for Teaching and Learning in IsolatioN, https://tinyurl.com/talin2020

The idea for TALIN was prompted by suggestions in numerous cross-fertilizing communities of practice that there was needed a space where members of these CoPs could meet online and talk informally to one another about how they are dealing with changes in their personal and professional contexts and what they are doing to help others in this trying time of pandemic.

Learning2gether can host TALIN events in Zoom during times of isolation/lockdown if they are intended to be recorded and shared with the wider community, and if they take place between 02:00-14:00 UTC

TALIN events here are open to all and free to attend.

If you would like to propose an event or invite others to meet in conversation

1. Visit this page https://tinyurl.com/talin2020
2. Click on “Request Edit Access” to the left of your profile picture at the top of the page
3. Wait for approval
4. Write in your event on the schedule. Give the time in UTC if you can, and give the time in your location also as a double check on time

You can host the event yourself, but if you want Learning2gether to host it and promote it, please allow enough time to check that I am available, at least a few days in advance.

After the Virtual Round Table Conference May 8-9, 2020, there’s even more about TALIN here:
https://bit.ly/talin2020 and https://youtu.be/iOYPkmWPAiY

Earlier Events

Wed 20 May 1400 UTC – TALIN hosts Dilip Barad – On Conducting Remote Hands-on Workshop

https://learning2gether.net/2020/05/20/talin-hosts-dilip-barad-on-conducting-remote-hands-on-workshops/

Thu 21 May FREE Project-Based Learning Mini-Summit

According to A.J. Juliani, featured here https://learning2gether.net/2020/04/22/two-days-in-april-21-22-from-joe-dale-to-learning-revolution/#Emergency

This is going to be an epic event! We already have over 3000 people signed up for the summit.
****All Sessions Will Be Recorded and Replays Will Be Emailed Out to Registrants the Following Day****

Use http://pblk12.com/ for folks to sign-up for the summit – access the individual session links below.

Session 1:
Erin Murphy
3:00pm-3:45pm EDT

Assessing Authentic Learning:
Creating a productive system to assess student learning in a project-based classroom can become overwhelming. This session will offer actionable approaches for feedback, assessment tools, and grading.

• Recording:  https://event.webinarjam.com/go/replay/12/27vm6s7foavuk

Session 2:
Ross Cooper and Joshua Culwell-Block
4:00pm-4:45pm EDT

Project-Based Learning in a Virtual World:
Let’s explore a concrete and practical framework for tackling PBL from a distance! We’ll walk you through a tried and true process that can be adapted for all grade levels. More specifically, we’ll take a look at: developing an idea for your project, ensuring sure your project is standards-based, how to assesses (and possibly grade) students based on these standards, how to filter in direct instruction, promoting self-assessment and peer assessment, giving students time and space to reflect and publish, and how to set up a digital hub that lends itself to project based learning from a distance

• Recording: https://event.webinarjam.com/go/replay/13/87o53s5hgslao

Session 3:
Shelly Sanchez Terrell
5:00pm-5:45pm EDT

STEAM Up Your Project-Based Learning in the Elementary Classroom:
STEAM education ignites innovation. Innovation thrives when students observe issues that impact them now, are allowed choices, collaborate with their peers, are allowed the time to implement and rework solutions, and reflect on how to carry out their ideas further in the future. How does all this work in the elementary classroom with limited time? In this session, Shelly Sanchez Terrell will share tips, activities, and tons of free resources to help you STEAM up the learning whether you are a novice or an expert.

• Recording: https://event.webinarjam.com/go/replay/15/475z2svcnuzf6

Session 4:
Monica Burns
6:00pm-6:45pm EDT

Igniting Creativity in the Classroom: Planning, Capturing and Sharing Learning:
Students can create an authentic product that shares what they’ve learned, and open-ended creation tools are powerful ways to capture and share student learning. In this session you’ll learn how designing opportunities for creation in the classroom empowers students to plan with a purpose, capture their new knowledge in any subject and ultimately share their learning with the world. When thinking of the ways This session will introduce Spark Video movie-making tool, Spark Page website builder tool, and Spark Post image creator tool. Attendees will see student work samples and find inspiration for learning activities across the content areas.

• Recording: https://event.webinarjam.com/go/replay/14/m14wpbxu7f7tg

Panel Discussion
7:00pm-7:45pm EDT

Join all of the presenters for a panel discussion about project-based learning. We’ll talk about current topics (such as how to do PBL in an emergency remote learning environment), and share ideas and practices for all K-12 levels and subject areas.

• Recording: https://event.webinarjam.com/go/replay/16/g3p0zf9a44aou6

Session 5:
A.J. Juliani
8:00pm-8:45pm EDT

How to Turn Any Unit into A Project-Based Learning Experience:
We all have curriculum, standards, and scope and sequence that often limits what we can do in the classroom (whether in-person or a remote learning environment). However, we can do PBL that connects to standards, supports the curriculum, and outpaces our current scope and sequence. In this session, we’ll break down the myths of PBL and how to actually do it with your students.

• Recording: https://event.webinarjam.com/go/replay/17/97859s5bzns3qc7

Session 6:
John Spencer
9:00pm-9:45pm EDT

Empowered PBL: Building Self-Direction in Distance Learning PBL
Student engagement can be a real challenge in distance learning classes. But often a lack of engagement is actually a lack of self-direction and ownership. In this session, we explore practical ways to build student ownership into distance learning PBL units.

• Recording: https://event.webinarjam.com/go/replay/18/174m6svs8qiwpb4

Let us know if you have any questions. Look forward to seeing you at the summit!

Thu May 21 1600 EST Reinventing School – Webinar panel discussion on Distance Learning

Today we have our third episode of the weekly interview series “REINVENTING.SCHOOL,” being held live on Thursdays at 4:00 pm US-EDT and hosted by Howard Blumenthal.

Last week, the topic was money and trying to understand how local and global economics intersects with the education of our children (“Paying for School“). The recording is now available on the www.reinventing.school section of LearningRevolution.com, on YouTube, and soon by audio podcast (we’ll let you know the link in future announcements).

This week, the topic is distance learning, a phenomenon that has suddenly captivated the world of school and education. Certainly, under the best of circumstances, with the most clever of professionals and parents, distance learning is an ideal short-term solution for students attempting to learn during this global mess. With second and third waves of coronavirus looming for later this year and 2021, along with the very large number of students for whom distance learning is a poor or otherwise unacceptable solution, there are big questions to be asked about how we learn, what we learn and why we learn.
To access the recordings, please go to
http://www.reinventing.school or https://learningrevolution.com/reinventingschool

For today’s topic, host Howard Blumenthal welcomes Jessica Piotrowski, Associate Professor at The University of Amsterdam, in The Netherlands, and Director of the Center for Research on Children, Adolescents and the Media (CcaM); Monica Goyette, the Superintendent of Schools for the Mat-Su Borough School District in Palmer, Alaska in the U.S.; and David Weinberger, author of Everyday Chaos: Technology, Complexity, and How We’re Thriving in a New World of Possibility, and senior researcher at Harvard’s Berkman Klein Center for Internet & Society. He will also be joined by Aiden, a student from Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Please join us for the live recording, or visit www.reinventing.school early next week to watch the recorded edition.

More about this week’s guests:

Dr. Monica Goyette became the Superintendent of Schools for the Mat-Su Borough School District in April, 2017. An Alaska educator since 1998, she holds a Bachelor of Arts degree in Social Sciences, a Masters of Education in Guidance and Counseling, a Masters of Education in Educational Leadership, and a Doctorate of Education in Educational Leadership/Curriculum & Instruction. Prior to becoming the Superintendent, Dr. Goyette worked as a counselor, teacher, school principal, executive director, and assistant superintendent of instruction. Dr. Goyette’s teaching and educational leadership experiences have shaped her agenda, which has an unwavering focus on student achievement and success. She looks forward to making learning meaningful and lasting for students; using capital assets resourcefully and wisely; and meeting the needs of students, parents, and employees.
https://www.matsuk12.us/domain/4644

Jessica Taylor Piotrowski, PhD is an Associate Professor in the Amsterdam School of Communication Research (ASCoR) at the University of Amsterdam (UvA). She is the Director of the Center for Research on Children, Adolescents, and the Media (CcaM), the Program Group Leader for Youth & Media Entertainment at ASCoR, and recently completed a 4-year term as the Chair of Children, Adolescents, and the Media division of the International Communication Association – the largest academic division of children and media scholars worldwide. An award-winning scholar, Dr. Piotrowski’s research investigates how youth process and comprehend media content, with specific attention to the potential benefits of media. She is particularly focused on understanding how young users process media content (cognitively, affectively, and physiologically) and the role of individual differences (dispositional, developmental, and social) in the selection and processing of media content. In recent years, she has begun to dive deeply into the topic of digital literacy in childhood and adolescence. Dr. Piotrowski frequently speaks at academic and trade conferences on the role of media in the lives of young people today. Moreover, with a strong belief in forging the divide between academic scholarship and societal practice, Dr. Piotrowski often shares her work in higher education classrooms, at public policy organizations, at children’s media organizations, and with childcare providers both within the Netherlands and worldwide. She is the co-author of the book Plugged In: How Media Attract and Affect Youth (Yale University Press, 2017), and regularly publishes in communication, psychology, and education journals.

Dr. David Weinberger: In books, articles, posts, classes, and talks, David Weinberger, Ph.D. explores the effect of the technology on ideas. He is a senior researcher at Harvard’s Berkman Klein Center for Internet & Society and was co-director of the Harvard Library Innovation Lab, and a journalism fellow at Harvard’s Shorenstein Center. Dr. Weinberger has been a marketing VP and adviser to high tech companies, an adviser to presidential campaigns, and a Franklin Fellow at the U.S. State Department. In four books he has explored the effect of the Internet on knowledge, on how we organize our ideas, on business, and on the core concepts by which we think about our world. His new book, Everyday Chaos: Technology, Complexity, and How We’re Thriving in a New World of Possibility (Harvard Business Review Press) argues that AI and the Internet are transforming our understanding of how things happen, enabling us to acknowledge the complexity and unknowability of our world. Dr. Weinberger has a doctorate in philosophy from the University of Toronto and lives in the Boston area.
http://www.weinberger.org/David

Howard Blumenthal created and produced the PBS television series, Where in the World Is Carmen Sandiego? He is currently a Senior Scholar at The University of Pennsylvania, studying learning and the lives of 21st-century children and teenagers. He travels the world, visiting K-12 schools, lecturing at universities, and interviewing young people for Kids on Earth, a global platform containing nearly 1,000 interview segments from Kentucky, Brazil, Sweden, India, and many other countries. Previously, he was a nationally syndicated newspaper columnist for The New York Times Syndicate, and United Features. He is the author of 24 books and several hundred articles about technology, learning, business, and human progress. As an executive, Howard was the CEO of a public television operation and several television production companies, and a state government official. Previously, he was a Senior Vice President for divisions of two large media companies, Hearst and Bertelsmann, and a consultant or project lead for Energizer, General Electric, American Express, CompuServe, Warner Communications, Merriam-Webster, Atari, and other companies.

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Learning2gether Episode #464
and TALIN event #19

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On Wednesday, May 20, at 1400 UTC – TALIN hostsed Dr. Dilip Barad who had agreed to talk with us on how he had conducted one of his recent remote hands-on workshop.

More about Dr. Dilip Barad

• https://www.linkedin.com/in/dilipbarad/
• Dilip’s resume showing his interests and publications, online at Academia,
  http://bhavuni.academia.edu/DilipBarad/CurriculumVitae
  Under Publications, in addition to numerous more scholarly works, he notes over 200 blog posts published at https://blog.dilipbarad.com/ 

Here is how Dilip Barad characterised his experience of remotely conducting the online hands-on workshop that he would be talking about:

It was quite a unique experiment with a few interesting learning experiences. The workshop was hosted from Bhavnagar, Gujarat (Western India) for the participants 2000 km down south in Chennai, Tamil Nadu. We worked on Google Meet platform. All participants were women teachers of Under Grades and above.

I invited Dilip to join us after he shared this post on Facebook:

What this says is …

Day 2:
#ICT is an important part in the toolkit of #skills required to carry out our main work / job / tasks. It is not the core knowledge which is required to professionals who are not directly dealing with software or IT related services.

For teachers #digital is the part of skill set. Their core knowledge is what they #teach.
Well, the only sure way to teach skills is to make people ‘do it’. Without ‘doing’, skills can never be mastered. The more we #practice, the more we master the skills.

Well, to teach skills wherein ‘hands-on’ practicing is very crucial is not an easy taak. Even in ‘face-to-face’ lab or classroom environment it is exhausting. It is so because the learner group is of mixed ability. While a few gallops on quickly to whatever is demonstrated or instructed, there are many who canter around like a snail in the lab / class. The facilitator’s job is tough to keep all along together in the digital skills.

Now, when it is so tough even in f2f environment, imagine how tough it might me to teach it ‘remotely’. In f2f mode, the facilitator in lab gets help of a few fast learners who help the slow ones and the sailing is not that tough.

In this #remote_teaching or say #remote_workshop, all the learners are in their homes, learning as an isolated learner. . . And it is tough beyond imagination to keep the entire class move on shoulder to shoulder, all together.

What worked in meaning this remotely handled hands-on workshop for faculty development?
1. We planned that all participants will work in two devices.
2. The participants shall have a mobile phone as well as a laptop or PC.
3. Needless to say, hi-speed internet and basic ICT skills (or keep a family member around who is good in ICT)
4. #Google_Meet – As we were to work on #Google #Classroom, we used Google #Meet which is hasslefree and does not require new login id or password. No need to remember a few more IDs and passwords.
5. Reliable internet – #BSNL landline Broadband was primarily used to connect multiple devices. It worked very well. #Airtel and #Jio were kept for backup in case one connection fails. (Airtel provided better speed and more reliable connectivity as compared to Jio.)

It worked very well. In two sessions of 3 hours each, we were able to cover-up what ever we expected to.
The faculty members were ready with skills to 1) Digitally share eContent, 2) Video Reaources, 3) Online testing tools and 4) digital platform to run online classes.

[It is less tiring to move around the lab / class and conduct workshop. It is extremely exhausting to remotely conduct workshop. Sitting in one place, one position constantly peeping in the tiny camera and speaking with nobody, no faces to see, no eye contact with learners to get a nod, no body gestures to reply our non-question questions ~ is very very exhausting.]

3 May 2020.

 — at Rupani Circle Bhavnagar.

Meanwhile, Dilip posted this to Facebook, as well as an invitation to a watch party on May 17, 2020

https://blog.dilipbarad.com/2020/05/world-after-covid-19.html

On May 17, Dilip invited his Facebook friends to sit in on this watch party

Watching this event play out online, one could observe Dilip’s students giving presentations, and Dilip scrolling through the apparently dozens, if not hundreds, of attendees. I’m sure that Dilip can tell us more about this.

This event was posted to these Facebook Groups 

• Learning2gether – https://www.facebook.com/groups/learning2gether/
• Webheads in Action – https://www.facebook.com/groups/webheadsinaction/
• EVO Multiliteracies MOOC – https://www.facebook.com/groups/evomlit/
• Learning with Computers – https://www.facebook.com/groups/6577061586/
• TALIN – Teaching and Learning in IsolatioN – https://www.facebook.com/groups/talin2020

And announced here: https://groups.io/g/webheadsinaction/message/32603
and as a calendar event: https://groups.io/g/webheadsinaction/viewevent?eventid=815644&calstart=2020-05-20

On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/vancestevens_volunteersneeded-activity-6668730241231536128-JYNB

Twitter: https://twitter.com/VanceS/status/1262976949825105920

Here are Dilip’s photos from the webinar and his commentary from Facebook

 — with Vaidehi Hariyani, Graham Stanley, Vance Stevens, Heike Philp, Rohit Vyas and Claire Bradin Siskin.

Zoom Chat Logs

21:42:42 From Vance Stevens : Welcome, we will be starting the webinar in 15-20 min
21:56:41 From Namrata Gohil : Hello…Good evening…
21:57:54 From Heike Philp : Dear all, please click on ‘Participants’ so that you can see the list of participants. (You might decide to go out of full screen mode) and then you can rename yourself if you appear as ‘Galaxy On7’ for example
22:03:42 From Heike Philp to Vance Stevens(Privately) : do you want to switch off your webcam Vance? (I did as requested, always appreciate reminders like this – Vance 🙂
22:03:55 From Vance Stevens : sure
22:05:25 From Heike Philp to Vance Stevens(Privately) : is it ok to disable the waiting room now?
22:05:28 From Vance Stevens to Heike Philp(Privately) : sure we can switch it off, me or you?
22:05:39 From Heike Philp to Vance Stevens(Privately) : I will switch it off now
22:05:40 From Vance Stevens to Heike Philp(Privately) : I did it
22:05:41 From Heike Philp to Vance Stevens(Privately) : and worry not
22:05:50 From Heike Philp to Vance Stevens(Privately) : its ok
I have this here for a reason. We were protecting the event from Zoom bombers. Things seem under control now.
22:06:11 From Sona : Good evening everyone
22:06:22 From Heike Philp : hi Sona!
22:06:24 From Vance Stevens : welcome
22:06:35 From Claire Siskin : Good evening (morning here in the U.S.)
22:06:44 From Vance Stevens : Hi Claire
22:06:49 From Heike Philp : good afternoon in Germany 🙂
22:06:51 From Sanghamitra Parhi : Good evening everyone
22:07:05 From NahirDesk : Good morning !
22:07:11 From Mouli : Good evening every one
22:07:46 From Chandreyee : Good Morning Claire! Good evening friends.
22:08:00 From Heike Philp to Vance Stevens(Privately) : I unchecked the ‘Allow Participants to Unmute themselves in the settings of the participants list
22:08:05 From Heike Philp to Vance Stevens(Privately) : this is important
22:08:21 From Vance Stevens to Heike Philp(Privately) : thanks Heike it helps to have a mentor
This is another important protection from Zoom bombers. Everyone can learn from Heike’s experience in these matters. Later when we wish to open things up, we can restore the ability for participants to unmute themselves.
22:08:29 From Samiya Kagdi : Hello Everyone!
22:08:38 From Heike Philp to Vance Stevens(Privately) : and now, all I do is switch off people’s webcams – that is all that can happen
22:08:48 From Heike Philp to Vance Stevens(Privately) : and these webcams so not show on the recording
22:08:55 From Heike Philp to Vance Stevens(Privately) : *do not show
22:09:03 From Vance Stevens to Heike Philp(Privately) : excellent22:09:18 From Heike Philp to Vance Stevens(Privately) : when they are muted they only show briefly and I switch them off
22:09:36 From Vance Stevens to Heike Philp(Privately) : great
Heike has now innoculated the proceedings from the last possible unwanted intrusion, except that at some point later, someone wrote a small line across one of Dilip’s slides.
22:09:01 From Titixa Pandya : Good evening everyone…
22:09:11 From Madhavi Nikam : Hello…Good evening every one
22:09:38 From Heike Philp : hi Sejal, do you have a question?
22:10:01 From Heike Philp : do you want to ask the question via text chat?
Sejal’s hand icon was raised
22:10:08 From DG : Good evening one and all
22:10:09 From Claire Siskin : Hi Vance
22:10:25 From Vance Stevens : waves @claire
22:10:46 From Claire Siskin : waves @vance
22:11:43 From Graham Stanley : waves @all
22:11:45 From Heike Philp : may I ask who added a line on the presentation? pls undo this
22:11:53 From Claire Siskin : not me
22:12:15 From jrann : not me
22:12:31 From Vance Stevens : thanks The line has disappeared
22:12:37 From Heike Philp : thank you so much – I was able to delete it
22:12:41 From Heike Philp : thanks everyone
22:13:10 From Graham Stanley : I don’t think participants have access to annotation tools, so it must have been the host or co-host
22:13:25 From Vance Stevens : not me
22:13:51 From Heike Philp : hi Graham, good to know, I thought so too
22:17:29 From NRM : I’m doing
22:18:15 From Heike Philp : @all, if you have questions to Dilip, please add a ‘Q’ at the beginning of your question, if you have a comment, please add a ‘C’
22:19:50 From Vance Stevens : C good suggestion
22:21:34 From Sona : Still you made it very easy for us Sir
22:21:51 From Heike Philp : Q I am interested very much how you cope not to see anyone and how to compensate this
22:27:59 From Chandreyee : It was not tiresome at all Sir. You made it extremely interesting. Indeed a memorable learning experience.
22:29:17 From Sona : Not able to unmute Sir
22:29:41 From Heike Philp : I have enabled all to unmute themselves now
22:29:49 From Heike Philp : please raise your hand if you want to speak
22:32:56 From Vance Stevens : @sona I muted you, are you the next speaker?
22:36:19 From Dr. Mahesh Jivani, SU, Rajkot : good conversation
22:37:57 From Prakash Navgire : Dear sir I have not attended your programme but today I am here to get information from you about your opinion to organise webinar on Zoom or Google meet. which is the best option when the participant are more than two hundred. The most important thing is I want to stream live the programme on YOU TUBE and FACEBOOK. Please guide me sir.
22:38:42 From Prakash Joshi : A very profitable interaction, Prof. Barad.
22:45:17 From Rohit Vyas : click on join device audio
22:45:40 From Sona : Really grateful to our Head of the Department for bringing you Sir as the resource person and you taught us so well
22:45:52 From Sanghamitra Parhi : not able to connect
22:45:59 From jrann : Sorry, but I have to leave, now. Class online. Thanks for your presentation.
22:46:13 From Prakash Navgire : May I ask ?
22:46:14 From Claire Siskin : We can see you, Sanghamitra.
22:46:59 From Vanitha R : We were both students and learners. We enrolled co faculty into our classes and become students in our colleagues classes. That way we learnt what our students would do…..not just what we would do as teachers
22:47:40 From Sona : Good evening Sir
22:49:15 From Vance Stevens : when you put comments here we will preserve them in the web archive at https://learning2gether.net
22:49:48 From Heike Philp : Have you tried livestreaming Zoom? it is very easy
22:51:11 From Heike Philp : I have livestreamed a conference using the function in Zoom and was very surprised how easy it is
22:51:12 From Sanghamitra Parhi : Personally speaking I am a slow learner and this FDP has helped me to use technology in the classroom. It has given me a lot of confidence to teach and conduct classes through the digital device. The best part of this FDP was when Dr. Barad asked us to act as each others’ students. And i really thank Dr. Barad for his patience and efficiency.
22:51:51 From Vance Stevens : It sounds like a wonderful workshop, we can all learn from his methods
22:52:12 From Claire Siskin : Yes, I agree with Vance!
22:53:39 From Vance Stevens : sorry I was having trouble finding the zoom window among many open
22:54:17 From Chandreyee : Dilip Barad Sir actually taught us learning can always be a pleasurable experience and it was possible only because of an enthusiastic and amazingly patient teacher like you. Hats off to your willingness to help people learn and take people along with you rather than leaving people behind. Thank you once again Sir. 🙏🙏🙏😊
22:54:45 From Claire Siskin : Yes, Dr. Dilip Barad, you are an excellent role model!
22:54:59 From Sona : Very true Chandreyee.
22:55:01 From Dharma Gohel to Vance Stevens(Privately) : kindly let me know the name of the youtube channel, where I can find the live stream of this session.
22:56:09 From Vance Stevens to Dharma Gohel(Privately) : this session? It will be podcast at http://learning2gether.net tomorrow22:56:59 From Dharma Gohel to Vance Stevens(Privately) : okay, thank you so much.
22:56:48 From Vance Stevens : obs is good but complicated
22:57:43 From Dr. Mahesh Jivani, SU, Rajkot : true Stevens sir… agree with you
23:01:22 From Claire Siskin : Thanks for a wonderful session!!
23:01:57 From NahirDesk : Excellent experience! Thanks for sharing!
23:02:13 From Madhavi Nikam : Really fruitful session…stay connected ..thanks a lot
23:02:36 From Claire Siskin : Great karma, Vance!
23:02:54 From Graham Stanley : Thank you!
23:03:22 From Sona : It’s always great to hear from you Sir. Looking forward to learn many new tools from you Sir
23:03:23 From Graham Stanley : Hi (can’t unmute) I enjoyed the conference
23:04:04 From Vaidehi Hariyani : Thank you Sir and the hosts for this interesting Session
23:04:10 From Mouli : It’s qute interesting session sir.Love it.
23:04:26 From Samiya Kagdi : C: Feeling grateful for having Dr. Dilip Barad Sir as my teacher in Masters😊
23:04:57 From Gohil Namrata : Thanks…Dr.Dilip Barad for giving me opportunity to attend this wonderful session.
23:04:59 From Vanitha R : Prof Barad was incredibly patient. Lots of us get impatient when trying to explain technology to older people. Barad sir never made us feel bad about clarifying the smallest of doubts
23:05:31 From Samiya Kagdi : As always it is, literally I enjoyed session this time also…and looking forward for having such fruitful sessions..
23:06:34 From Vance Stevens : that’s an excellent question
23:06:45 From Nikita Rathod : Thank you, I am very happy to become a part of this session
23:08:05 From Vance Stevens : the podcast recording will be at https://learning2gether.net
23:09:16 From Heike Philp : good question
23:09:28 From Vance Stevens : It seems that participants here are practicing excellent ethics in muting and closing videos when not needed
23:10:02 From Claire Siskin : Yes, I have also noticed that people in general are much better at muting than they used to be.
23:10:03 From Heike Philp : because a Zoom meeting ‘costs’ about 100 Mb of data – if you are on a internet scheme which has a limited data package then you use up a lot of data just for video conferencing
23:11:23 From Graham Stanley : What about Teams, Heike? referring to the cost of Teams in terms of Mb of data that someone will have to ‘pay’ from their data package
23:11:27 From Kavisha Alagiya : Thankful to attend this webinar which focused on the challenges of a teacher while demonstrating on online platforms.
23:12:26 From Komal Shahedadpuri : Dr Kalyanimam, yes I am facing same problem when students don’t respond or to show their Readiness to learn, sometimes it’s exhausted experience but we still doing they will ready to learn. patience very important on part of teacher.. really Dilipsir is great example of that.. thanks Hosts for this productive discussion..
23:13:00 From Vance Stevens : the best teachers are simply good models
23:13:46 From Samiya Kagdi : Well said >Vance Stevens.
23:15:20 From KALYANI VALLATH : But the qualities of the best teacher in the classroom is not the same as that of the best online teacher. There are other skills involved. Therefore “the best teacher” is not a homogenous entity!😀
23:15:29 From Vance Stevens : teachers model and demonstrate; students practice and reflect – Stephen Downes
23:15:34 From Claire Siskin : Very true, Kalyani!
23:15:43 From Pooja Trivedi Pathak : informative… as a tecaher have faced many of these problems. now good to know that we r having various solutions online. Thank you for such guidelines…
23:17:35 From Graham Stanley : Thank you Dilip. Thank you everyone. Very interesting.
23:17:49 From Graham Stanley : I have to go to another meeting…bye all
23:17:57 From Dilip Barad : Thank you all
23:18:06 From Heike Philp : big round of applause
23:18:44 From Samiya Kagdi : Truly said Kalyani Ma’am, It differs from person to person.
23:18:44 From Dharma Gohel : Thanks a million Dr Dilip Barad sir, for allowing us to be a part of this session.
Yes Kalyani ma’am, agree with you. To get the students response is truly exhausting experience.
Thanks to the hosts as well. Enriching experience.
23:18:52 From Samiya Kagdi : Thankyou all..
23:18:53 From Megha Trivedi : Thank you ..
23:18:55 From Madhavi Nikam : thanks
23:19:04 From Ruchita Kankrecha : Thank you sir
23:19:09 From Gohil Namrata : Bye…Bye
23:19:13 From Dharma Gohel : Thanks once again.
23:19:13 From Sona : Thank You

More about TALIN

TALIN stands for Teaching and Learning in IsolatioN, https://tinyurl.com/talin2020

The idea for TALIN was prompted by suggestions in numerous cross-fertilizing communities of practice that there was needed a space where members of these CoPs could meet online and talk informally to one another about how they are dealing with changes in their personal and professional contexts and what they are doing to help others in this trying time of pandemic.

Learning2gether can host TALIN events in Zoom during times of isolation/lockdown if they are intended to be recorded and shared with the wider community, and if they take place between 02:00-14:00 UTC

TALIN events here are open to all and free to attend.

If you would like to propose an event or invite others to meet in conversation

1. Visit this page https://tinyurl.com/talin2020
2. Click on “Request Edit Access” to the left of your profile picture at the top of the page
3. Wait for approval
4. Write in your event on the schedule. Give the time in UTC if you can, and give the time in your location also as a double check on time

You can host the event yourself, but if you want Learning2gether to host it and promote it, please allow enough time to check that I am available, at least a few days in advance.

After the Virtual Round Table Conference May 8-9, 2020, there’s even more about TALIN here: https://bit.ly/talin2020 and https://youtu.be/iOYPkmWPAiY

Earlier Events

Sun 17 and Mon 18 May – Reboot of Webheads Weekly Revival Meeting 8

https://learning2gether.net/2020/05/18/8th-webheads-weekly-revival-meeting-reboots-monday-after-3rd-strike-on-zoom/

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The date of this update is May 23, 2020 01:30 UTC

Learning2gether Episode 463
8th Webheads Revival
and TALIN event #18

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Our Zoom meeting May 17 was no PICNIC. Tech support folks will recognize the acronym as being “problem in chair, not in computer’. After the May 17 fiasco, I  thought the problem might be where I was sitting but it turned out to be not me, but ‘in computer’; more specifically in Zoom. If the problem could be in any way construed to be PICNIC, then it was ‘problem in computer, not in chair’.

I think it is highly commendable of Zoom to have offered their services for free to educators struggling on minimal budgets to meet students in these times of pandemic, but they may have fallen on a double edged sword; see

Alex Konrad. (2020, March 13). Exclusive: Zoom CEO Eric Yuan Is Giving K-12 Schools His Videoconferencing Tools For Free. Forbes. https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexkonrad/2020/03/13/zoom-video-coronavirus-eric-yuan-schools/

With one edge they have mediated (the word in vogue nowadays) one problem that all these teachers were facing, and for which they are surely grateful, but the other blade has come back to cut them. Again I wish them success, but their operation is having problems with scale. Consider these reports from May 17, 2020, this report of our experience from 11:30-13:00 UTC, and the others coming in over the next few hours. For example, this tweet thread at https://twitter.com/zoom_us/status/1262027206114459649

If Coolcatteacher can’t make it work, at least we’re in good company 🙂

Here are some more blog posts from these dark hours when Zoom was falling over badly

This was posted at 16:00 UTC on Sunday May 17
Kim Lyons. (2020, May 17). Zoom says Sunday morning outage resolved: Users reported problems joining meetings on the videoconferencing platform. The Verge. https://www.theverge.com/2020/5/17/21261512/zoom-videoconferencing-sunday-outage

Mark Spoonauer. (2020, May 17). Zoom down? Lots of users can’t join or host meetings [UPDATE]. Tom’s Guide. https://www.tomsguide.com/news/zoom-down-lots-of-users-cant-join-or-host-meetings
“Zoom users are complaining of audio and video problems and others can’t join meetings at all”

Georgina Torbet. (2020, May 17). Zoom restores service after experiencing outages. Digitaltrends. https://www.digitaltrends.com/news/zoom-outage-17-may/

The problems experienced by many throughout the word at the time we held our meeting was but one symptom of failure to scale. Another is breakdown of support. Zoom has a support chat icon for Pro users, and in the past I have used it and received instant help with issues. These days there is no person there, just a chatbot that tells you to file a ticket. I filed one on May 11 and till now, a week later, I have had no response, not even to close the ticket.

My last three times using Zoom I have encountered problems. The first time was relatively benign. After we completed our last Webhead revival meeting on May 10, the conversion of Zoom’s temp files into useful files like m4a and mp4 wouldn’t proceed because I needed to delete other files clogging my hard drives first. Fair enough, they were all backed up so I deleted Zoom files from previous years from my HDD and then went to the Zoom folder, found the unconverted files, double clicked, and they converted, no problem really, just an outside pitch, ‘ball one’ (batter shuffles his feet in the dirt, pitcher looks hard for a signal from the catcher).

Strike One!

The next time was more serious. After my conversation with Karen Schwarze, the files started converting but Zoom picked that time to ask me if I wanted to upgrade to 5.0, which everyone needs to do by May 20 (so they say). That caused a more serious corruption of the conversion files which caused me to file a support request on May 11, to which there has been no response, but meanwhile I worked out how to do it myself. Still, a worried sleep, and ‘strike one’. You can find full details here:
https://learning2gether.net/2020/05/11/talin-hosts-karen-schwarze-on-teaching-natural-language-processing-in-english-classes/#Problem

Strike TWO!

The next time at our infamous meeting with Nik Peachey there was a memorable attack by Zoom bombers. Fortunately I had taken precautions; in particular I had by then invoked the Waiting Room, and after some intensive bombing I was able to quarantine the raiders to the Waiting Room and the event then proceeded successfully. That was a swing for the fences, complete miss, strike-two!

However, we were able to recover completely, so it’s only mentioned in the Zoom chatlogs here:
https://learning2gether.net/2020/05/15/nik-peachey-on-the-uberfication-of-language-teaching-what-next-with-teaching-in-lockdown/#ChatLogs

Steee-rike THREE!

So I took steps to learn more about Zoom security and planned the event on May 17 to be a test of changes I had made to meeting configuration. This one was a complete fiasco. The problem was that Zoom had gone down worldwide (for “a subset of” users it said) but I thought the problem was changes I had made to my meeting configuration, so I spent the hour trying to resolve that, and in the end, the meeting was pretty much a wash. Strike three! Zoom, you’re OUT!

But it’s not the end of the game. Let’s see what your next batter can do.

Here is what we managed to record on May 17, 2020

Have a look if you want to see one example of what could possibly go wrong on Zoom, keeping in mind that Zoom bombers are even worse …
YouTube link: https://youtu.be/J0ZyE0LflPc

Here is what was supposed to happen

TALIN event #18
Learning2gether #463
Regular Webheads Revival Weekly Sunday Meeting 8

On Sunday May 17 we had scheduled our 8th Webheads Revival Regular Weekly Sunday Meeting 8 starting at 11:30 UTC to accommodate Susan Marandi in Iran, who has an online class at noon each Sunday.

Unbeknownst to us and the rest of the subset of users, Zoom was down all over the world when we attempted to hold this meeting. Therefore:
I announced I would repeat the event at noon UTC Monday May 18

Sus was first to arrive (and Bobbi joined for the selfie) …

Followed by Nina, which is where we started the recording …
You Tube link https://youtu.be/34Q8QEHJedc

There were only three links in the Zoom text chat, included here in case anyone wants to recall them …

20:42:46 From Vance Stevens : https://evomlit.wordpress.com/2014/01/07/the-only-known-detractor-of-evo/
20:48:58 From Vance Stevens : https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pm4Q_jJbrWKu38-xv8-2QFrn-ialnZBT-qDofoXAWcY/edit#heading=h.mgaokyem26lc
21:05:21 From Nina Liakos : https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/206330935-Enabling-and-adding-a-co-host

20:42:46 – When Nina arrived Sus and I had been talking about the recent Zoom bomber incident which had led us on to the topic of trolls. Our educational communities of practice have been well over 99% troll-free. In the 20 years we have been conducting them, all of that time and energy has been devoted to healthy social interactions and the amerliorizaton of our professonal bonds and methodology of our practice. However there has been one troll (has been, not was, because the attacks continue) who has been so persistent and annoying that I decided it would be best to document the extent of his perfidy, which is in the first link.

20:48:58 – The second link was to a documement full of resources that I have been accumulating on What to do if your school is closed due to COVID-19, and the reason I had included this link was that it was to a bookmark in this document where I had stored the link we had really been looking for, this one …

Heike Philp has prepared a comprehensive document entitled Zoom bombing – how to be prepared and how to prevent it. Anyone with this link can view it
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v2M2aKdEX07JvAL3BWEqrmiXyEzy87l4FApTLSZUQ9s/edit?usp=sharing

21:05:21 – The last link was contributed by Nina as a resource on enabling co-hosts in Zoom. I was trying to walk her through how to do it but she was unable to find the button to toggle in her profile / meeting settings. However I now see from the link she provided that the prerequisites for being able to invoke this include: “Pro, Business, Education, or API Partner plan” so it is not available to free zoom accounts.

In the video you can hear us discussing these settings, and I attempt to screenshare and explain some of them. I have since prepared a document where I show my settings in hopes that these can be a topic of further discussion on Learning2gether / TALIN. Here they are in case you’d like a look. Keep in mind that these are for a Pro account.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/12cNCX-aWOLs7mJNDLybXlrbIqFE74anIywRhUV-XtQ4/edit?usp=sharing

Nina had also wanted to discuss Facebook’s new Messenger for Groups, but Bobbi had come to tell me that dinner was ready, and we would have to leave that for a later time …

What are these meetings about?

The original Webheads weekly meetings used to be held regularly for the first decade of this century in various online spaces, http://prosites-vstevens.homestead.com/files/efi/chatlogs.htm, traditionally at noon UTC on Sundays. These started out being meetings of Writing for Webheads, a precursor MOOC for people worldwide who wanted to improve their English in conversation and other interactions with native speakers. After Webheads in Action was formed n 2002, the meetings were mostly attended by teachers and educational technology specialists, and others, in the process of becoming a community of practice.

Webheads never disbanded, though we did lie fallow for some time. When COVID-19 provoked us into moving online to a greater degree than in the interim, and at the instigaton of Webheads co-founder Michael Coghlan, we regrouped, falling eventually into the original time frame.

In these meetings we gather in Zoom to talk about Life in the Time of COVID-19. It’s an opportunity for virtual friends and colleagues to spend some time together and talk about how we’re spending our lockdown days, or anything else that may be on our minds. It’s open mic; our meetings tend to be free-form and are tailored to the interests of whomever turns up (but of course, if anyone wants to suggest an agenda in advance, they are welcome to do so.)

This event and updates have been posted to these Facebook Groups 

• Learning2gether – https://www.facebook.com/groups/learning2gether/
• Webheads in Action – https://www.facebook.com/groups/webheadsinaction/
• EVO Multiliteracies MOOC – https://www.facebook.com/groups/evomlit/
• Learning with Computers – https://www.facebook.com/groups/6577061586/
• TALIN – Teaching and Learning in IsolatioN – https://www.facebook.com/groups/talin2020

An  update was also be announced here: https://groups.io/g/webheadsinaction/message/32594

Some notes from the head of that thread:

Hi everyone, sorry for the late notice. As you know we’ve had a lot of events lately, and it’s hard keeping up with that in the best of times. The last one was Nik Peachey’s talk on the Uberfication of English language teaching, a topic right in keeping with teaching in the time of COVID-19. The event finished for me late Friday, May 15.

The event was particularly stressful due to the arrival of my first ever experience with Zoom bombers. The attack was successfully managed, but next day I had to edit the beginning of the video, something I don’t normally need to do, and it was only late yesterday that I managed to post what seems to be a perfectly normal podcast
https://learning2gether.net/2020/05/15/nik-peachey-on-the-uberfication-of-language-teaching-what-next-with-teaching-in-lockdown/

This has forced me to take this morning to bone up on Zoom bombing and how to prevent it. Heike very helpfully produced a document with useful tips and I’ve put its link in this section of my https://tinyurl.com/covid19teaching document, one of many similar documents that provide resources for dealing with pandemic teaching online (here’s the section)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pm4Q_jJbrWKu38-xv8-2QFrn-ialnZBT-qDofoXAWcY/edit#heading=h.mgaokyem26lc

So I’ve made several changes to my Zoom settings. To begin with I’ve deleted all my previous Zoom rooms, adjusted settings on future rooms, and created a new room with the new settings for the event today.

When we meet today we can test these settings and readjust if needed.

Zoom Chat Logs

From Sunday May 17

Not much happened in the text chat today. I started the meeting and Chris Fry joined the Waiting Room. I admitted him but he was left in perpetual joining …. mode. Eventually I Skyped him that I would deactivate the waiting room and restart the meeting. When I restarted, the waiting room was still activated, but this time when Chris appeared I was able to admit him. He was able to use audio; however he was unable to show video or rename one of his avatars. I made a screen shot to show him that I had enabled permission to rename one of his icons, but I was unable to share it in the meeting. Participants could see that I was sharing but could only see a black box, nothing inside. I saved the screen shot to the cloud and typed its link into the text chat, as you can see below.

Meanwhile, Susan Marandi had come along and was admitted to the room. We could see she was there but we saw no icon, nor could we communicate with her, or she wish us. Eventually she dropped out. We knew she had to meet a class on the hour (I hope it wasn’t in Zoom).

19:49:16 From Vance Stevens : any problem, susan?
19:52:51 From Vance Stevens : rename is enabled https://www.screencast.com/t/O3077m99
20:02:53 From Vance Stevens : https://www.screencast.com/t/O3077m99
20:12:50 From Vance Stevens [to the waiting room] : Hi EES Americas, can you identify yourself please

Graham Stanley emailed me in reply to that
Hi Vance, EES Americas is me – you cannot chat in the Zoom Waiting Room.
By that he meant that I could send messages TO the waiting room, but those in the waiting room could not reply (in Zoom; and I would not be checking email until after this fiasco had been terminated)

Regarding the rename problem, I showed Chris that rename had been enabled. In the video you can see me holding my iPad and renaming myself on it. “Ah,” Chris replied, “you can DO that but look again, nothing happens, the name does not actually change.” He was correct.

More about TALIN

TALIN stands for Teaching and Learning in IsolatioN, https://tinyurl.com/talin2020

The idea for TALIN was prompted by suggestions in numerous cross-fertilizing communities of practice that there was needed a space where members of these CoPs could meet online and talk informally to one another about how they are dealing with changes in their personal and professional contexts and what they are doing to help others in this trying time of pandemic.

Learning2gether can host TALIN events in Zoom during times of isolation/lockdown if they are intended to be recorded and shared with the wider community, and if they take place between 02:00-14:00 UTC

TALIN events here are open to all and free to attend.  If you would like to propose an event or invite others to meet in conversation

1. Visit this page https://tinyurl.com/talin2020
2. Click on “Request Edit Access” to the left of your profile picture at the top of the page
3. Wait for approval
4. Write in your event on the schedule. Give the time in UTC if you can, and give the time in your location also as a double check on time

You can host the event yourself, but if you want Learning2gether to host it and promote it, please allow enough time to check that I am available, at least a few days in advance.

After the Virtual Round Table Conference May 8-9, 2020,
there’s even more about TALIN here:
https://bit.ly/talin2020 and https://youtu.be/iOYPkmWPAiY

Earlier Events

Fri 15 May 1300 UTC TALIN hosts Nik Peachey – So what next with teaching in lockdown?

The Uberfication of language teaching

https://learning2gether.net/2020/05/15/nik-peachey-on-the-uberfication-of-language-teaching-what-next-with-teaching-in-lockdown/

Sat 16 May 15-1300-1500 utc – VSTE Second Life Saturdays – repeats each Saturday

If you don’t have a Second Life account get one, it’s free. We recommend setting one up at the Rockcliffe University Consortium’s Gateway here: https://urockcliffe.com/reg/second-life/

Download and install the software. While your Second Life viewer (software) is open click this link http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Soulgiver/155/144/58

and voila! Look for an avatar on VSTE Island and say, “Hey, I’m new!” We will take care of the rest.

About this intitiative, https://vste.org/upcoming-events-virtual-environments-pln/

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The date of this update is May 19, 2020 02:30 UTC

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The Uberfication of language teaching

Nik Peachey was kind enough to contribute his time and write himself in as a presenter for a Learning2gether / TALIN (Teaching and Learning in IsolatioN) on On Friday May 15, at 1300 UTC. His working title was “So what next with teaching in lockdown?”  But as he developed the topic, it became a more catchy The Uberfication of language teaching.

Here are his slides: https://view.genial.ly/5ebc15ce2d0fc40d913fcf99

His proposal:
So now that everyone has been launched into teaching online whether they like it or not, what happens next? How do we develop our skills and make sure we are delivering quality lessons? I’ll be sharing experiences of two years spent managing a 100% online school with more than 70 teachers and developing training and content for online classes.

And the video

Nik who?

Here are the links behind the icons on one of Nik’s signature slides

• Payhip: https://payhip.com/peacheypublications
• Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/peacheypublications/
• Twitter: https://twitter.com/NikPeachey
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikpeachey/
• WordPress: https://peacheypublications.com/
• Vimeo: https://vimeo.com/nikpeachey
• Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.co.uk/nikpeachey/
• YouTube playlist: https://www.youtube.com/user/NikPeachey

Is that all?

I’m sure that what is listed here is not “all” either, but it’s a start …

Nik’s “other” blogs and websites

• https://peacheypublications.com/
• http://quickshout.blogspot.co.uk/

Nik’s main Scoop.Its: 

• Practical Tools for Teachers and Learners: https://www.scoop.it/topic/tools-for-learners
• Research and Methodology: https://www.scoop.it/topic/learning-technology

Nik on Mix, a site that breaks down tools so they go into collections; e.g. https://mix.com/nikpeachey

Nik on Diigo: https://groups.diigo.com/user/nikpeachey

Paper.li’s:

• The Nik Peachey Daily https://paper.li/e-1462857633#/
• The Grammar Daily https://paper.li/e-1473494893#/
• Plus this one he mentioned at his talk at the Virtual Round Table web conference

Nik at the Virtual Round Table web conference on May 9

In his second presentation at the recent Virtual Round Table Web Conference (he had participated in the Virtual Exposition the day before), Nik was asked about the future of schools after COVID-19. Here is what he said, queued to where he said it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2P8B3OMjTnw&feature=youtu.be&t=3091

The slides for this presentation are here:
https://view.genial.ly/5eb2dde81aba1b6fc08eae1c

From these slides and the Zoom text chat I gleaned the following items of interest, which help to introduce Nik, his method of working, his connections, and his interests

Plus these tags were suggested by participants in the Zoom chat when Nik prompted them to write their favorite tags there

• #ELTChat
• #mfltwitterati
• #covid19wl
• #langchat
• #covidteaching
• #mlearning
• #ELLchat

Some of Nik’s favorite tags: 

Nik provided me this list when I asked him what tags I should use to promote his talk for Learning2gether and TALIN

#esl #efl #elt #tesol #eal #ell #ela #esl #tefl #edtech #remoteLearning #onlineEnglish #EnglishOnline

Who to follow on Twitter

These Twitter handles were shared when Nik asked participants to write theirs in the Zoom text chat

• @Marisa_C
• @joannapnorton
• @lainemarsh
• @vances
• @joedale
• @RitaZ
• @nataneva
• @JoeMcVeigh
• @anacristinaprts
• @garymotteram
• @leoselivan
• @Chris_Fry_BCN
• @EleniMoraki
• @malmohamady80
• @Peter90598383
• @abelgalvezelt
• @nelliporseva

Facebook Groups that Nik follows

Some useful tools mentioned by particpants in the text chat

• Pinterest
• Evernote
• Sketchbooks
• Tik Tok
• Podomatic
• Padlet, and now that Padlet has gone to an extreme freemium model
  • https://app.milanote.com to replace Padlet (now that it’s no longer free)
  • https://wakelet.com/ is very helpful because links can be kept private or made public or shared with colleagues or students.

Teacher blogs that Nik recommends

• Top 100 ESL Teacher Blogs and Websites to follow in 2020 (ELT Blogs) https://blog.feedspot.com/esl_teacher_blogs/
  • To which Marisa added, https://teach.com/what/teachers-know/teach100/
• Russell Stannard’s https://www.teachertrainingvideos.com/
• Shelly Terrell’s Teacher Reboot Camp – http://teacherrebootcamp.com/
• Cecilia Nobre’s ELT Blog – https://cecilianobreelt.wordpress.com/
• Lachesis Braick’sTips for Teachers and Students, https://www.lbenglishteacher.com/eng-blog

Nik asked those present in the chat to post their own blog links in the Zoom chat

• Ana Cristina Pratas https://cristinaskybox.blogspot.com/
• Maha Hassan http://teachingenglishcafe.blogspot.com/
• Abel Gálvez www.abelsenglishpage.blogspot.com
• Graham Stanley http://blog-efl.blogspot.com/
• Mike Kenteris https://mreltmike.wordpress.com/
• Joanna Norton  http://keywordsenglish.com/news/pen-test-vs-testing-challenges-academic-writing/
• Nesma Montaser nooneverything.blogpost.com
• Marisa Constantinides https://eltchat.org/wordpress/blog/
• Eleni Moraki https://elmorteaching1.wordpress.com/
• Vance Stevens
  • https://advanceducation.blogspot.com
  • https://learning2gether.net
  • http://toolkit4learning.blogspot.com/

Promotion and feedback

This event was posted (by Vance) to these Facebook Groups 

• Learning2gether – https://www.facebook.com/groups/learning2gether/
• Webheads in Action – https://www.facebook.com/groups/webheadsinaction/
• EVO Multiliteracies MOOC – https://www.facebook.com/groups/evomlit/
• Learning with Computers – https://www.facebook.com/groups/6577061586/
• TALIN – Teaching and Learning in IsolatioN – https://www.facebook.com/groups/talin2020

And announced

• here: https://groups.io/g/webheadsinaction/message/32585
• and on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6666704324510515201/
• and Tweeted at https://twitter.com/VanceS/status/1260913930790031361
  and retweeted from that by Nik
• Follow-up tweet, https://twitter.com/VanceS/status/1261928655346786307

Ajarn Ti was one of the participants in my eLearning course in February

Nik made these announcements in his own mailings

• In his May 12, 2020 PeacheyPublications emailed newsletter
  Nik Peachey – Director of PeacheyPublications will be doing a free webinar on Friday 15th May about the future of language teaching online. It’s intended that in the webinar he will raise questions about the impact online teaching will have on language teaching, language teachers, language schools and the ELT publishing industry. The webinar will be more of an informal discussion of some of the issues and won’t necessarily offer answers, but should be food for thought as we move forward together as an industry.
• And on May 14, this one
  This is just a quick promo message for a free webinar that I’ll be doing tomorrow (15th May at 13.00 UTC).The title of the webinar is ‘What next after teaching in lockdown?’ And the theme of the session will be looking at the longer term impact of online teaching and social distancing on English language students, teachers, schools and the publishing industry. The talk will be a provocative one that looks at the potential ‘uberfication’ of language teaching and asks the questions about what we can do to maintain the quality professionalism of our industry in this time of disruption.Please come along and be ready to share your views and insights
  Nik Peachey – Director – PeacheyPublications

Uberfication: https://www.information-age.com/uber-fication-everything-how-uber-changed-world-123460024/

Parting Tweet

Zoom Chat Logs

Just prior to starting the recording, we were inundated with Zoom bombers. This chat log would have appeared once the recording had started. We had corralled the bombers in the Waiting Room, and I was calling out the names of everyone stuck there and asking if any of the 30 some-odd participants we had in the room would vouch for them. As participants spoke up, I would admit the lucky ones to the main room, leaving the bombers behind to stew in their juices, but some unfortunate colleagues must have been left behind as well.

I was thinking at the time I was glad I hadn’t started the recording yet, but now, on reflection, I wish I had. It would have made an interesting record and could have been useful in working out how and why the event happened. The nastiness could have been removed from the archived video later.

21:07:32 From Andrew Howarth : I’m an ELT consultant in Italy
21:08:34 From Sarah Redbridge Institute : Yes, Barbara Rossi is a colleague
21:08:50 From MariCarmen : Good afternoon from Bath
21:08:55 From Jeff Magoto : Hello everyone!
21:09:05 From Harshita : Hello Everyone
21:09:07 From Joshua Underwood : Afternoon from Bilbao
21:11:43 From Jeff Magoto : I’m glad that uberification doesn’t involve delivering groceries!
21:12:59 From MariCarmen : Vance’s microphone is giving echo
My apologies, but I was juggling a lot of hot irons and was not paying attention to the text chat.

21:15:29 From Vance Stevens (to the waiting room) : sorry the room is full at the moment but If you want to wait we may be able to let you in later
And later, when there was more time, I did let in a couple of people in the waiting room who had photo icons next to their names. After searching their names on Facebook I was able to verify that a couple of these icons matched with real educators.

My apologies to those with legitimate interests who may have been trapped with the “boomers” but it was quite difficult to distinguish friend from foe once we were able to start the session, which would have been about this time in the chatlogs.

21:15:42 From Nik Peachey : https://www.menti.com/9xqncvd967
21:17:16 From julie wallis : New normal will hopefully combine best of old and new. Previously blended
21:20:21 From Jeff Magoto : The old International House Model?
21:20:22 From Ana Cristina Pratas : Exactly. It’s the perception that speaking/teaching online is supposed to be cheap if not free…..
21:21:11 From Marilina Lonigro : The idea is that online Learning is “optional” both for Teachers hired in government schools and for students
21:22:12 From Joshua Underwood : I think I am starting to notice more comments amongst people looking for online learning about ‘quality’ and how you identify quality language learning opportunities online but that is just something I ‘feel’ I’m noticing in comments on MOOCs, not quantitative.
21:24:31 From Ana Cristina Pratas : @Joshua Underwood – there is a significant shift owing to the emergency remote teaching right now; there is a clearer perspective that online edu does need quality and is not only a video dump
21:26:10 From Jeff Magoto : With 24/7 hours, we’ll definitely need a virtual/AR café next to the virtual school.
21:27:36 From Joshua Underwood : @AnaCristina yes, possibly. I’m thinking in particular of comments I see that I think relate to ‘live’ teaching/tutoring
21:27:40 From Michael Birch to Vance Stevens(Privately) : Hi Vance, Sorry I’m late. Internet connection problems even in a supposedly developed country.
21:30:28 From Vance Stevens to Michael Birch(Privately) : we had a bomb incident, needed to halt entry, sorry
I had recognized Michaels name from the chatlogs from Nik’s presentation on May 9 at Heike’s Virtual Round Table web conference, and had admitted him accordingly.

21:28:55 From julie wallis : Building Trust in a VLE is the foundation of classroom quality
21:28:55 From Ana Cristina Pratas : Yes @Joshua, I understand; it affects both asynchronous and synchronous teaching.
21:33:10 From Ana Cristina Pratas : Another expense -> good digital tools….
21:33:38 From julie wallis : Schools will need to learn to be flexible about the phisical space and be prepare to open and close, creating larger and smaller spaces depending on the period and restrictions
21:34:42 From Vance Stevens : you’d have to moonlight as an uber drive
21:36:27 From Jeff Magoto : I think I’d rather work for Peloton — if I’m going to be paid less, at least I get to stay in good shape!
21:35:24 From Joshua Underwood : One tension with ‘uberfiying’ teachers is that you don’t always get the same driver/teacher and that gets in the way of building relationships, which (I think) can be very important in language learning
21:36:49 From Ana Cristina Pratas : @Joshua, that’s a really good point, at the same time students like trying different teachers out (those trial lessons) and so it becomes like an endless bowl of cherries.
21:40:13 From Joshua Underwood : @ana sure but once you find the type of cherry you like you might want to stick with it and maybe pay more for it.
Maybe even adjust your timetable to get that teacher
21:41:28 From Ana Cristina Pratas : Very true @Joshua; for me (i.e. establishing a positive, constructive relationship with learners, is important for their success (in whatever field of study)
21:37:13 From Marilina Lonigro : I agree with @Joshua Underwood. Languages are mostly about communication and relationship. Having to change teacher continuously….well we could well have bot Teachers!
21:41:03 From Vance Stevens : the chat will be published online
21:41:23 From julie wallis : Loving the challenge
21:41:24 From Maria : Do you think we are in front of global education?
21:42:07 From julie wallis : @maria ..difficult to know as tend to live in an isolated bubble
21:41:54 From Nik Peachey : https://www.menti.com/54eo4vbzah
21:42:00 From Ana Cristina Pratas : Thank you Nik!
21:42:03 From Joshua Underwood : Afraid I have to go 😦 Very interesting topic – thanks Nik
21:42:35 From Sarah Redbridge Institute : Can we talk about quality?
21:45:55 From David Heath : But I don’t think the market could support a doubling of lesson fees.
21:46:07 From Pradita Nambiar : How does this work in countries where most of the children go to public schools and have limitations of access
21:47:00 From Ana Cristina Pratas : Yes, there are indications of blended edu also being a blend of synchronous & asynchronous (i.e. so not only blended in the more pre-Covid19 sense)
21:47:26 From Marilina Lonigro : exactly what I was saying about online needing a lot of self-discipline
21:46:29 From Vance Stevens : my mic went out and I’m trying to fix it
Must have lost it in the juggling. Vance runs audio tests, tries switching mic source, eventually unplugs and re-inserts USB mic
21:48:22 From Vance Stevens : I think my mic is working now
21:48:50 From Michael Birch : For the f to f, online mix, I was thinking of both as synchronous
21:50:52 From Ana Cristina Pratas : Vance, you are referring to people who speak English (any other language) rather than actually being a trained teacher….
21:52:34 From Vance Stevens : no, I mean what are the prospects for teachers of our qualification if your prospects for employment are in the gig economy, would you go to college for 6 years for that? What about the gigification of doctors? Not feasible, where is the happy medium
21:53:33 From Ana Cristina Pratas : @Vance, the more I teach, the more I wonder where a possible happy medium may be.
21:51:46 From Milena Montalbano : That’s going to be an issue with going online, how can we communicate quality?
21:52:56 From Jeff Magoto : Fast food didn’t destroy haute cuisine, but certainly a lot will be lost in uberification: accessibility, affordability, and equality of treatment to name a few.
21:52:58 From julie wallis : Teachers, professional Teachers , will Always need support in developing. We don’t just learn about today’s technology and stop there. Good schools will find ways of retaining good Teachers. If they can’t and the quality is lowered, they will close.
21:56:24 From Ana Cristina Pratas : Most language teachers cannot live only with 1 salary…..
21:57:58 From Jeff Magoto : Peachey Pubs: High quality, innovative, and low cost! A hard combination to ignore (or beat!)
21:59:31 From Barbara Rossi : I need to go now. The talk was very interesting and informative. Thanks
22:00:49 From julie wallis : Thank you Nik. Have to go. Plenty of food for thought.
22:01:07 From Vance Stevens : bye Julie
22:01:58 From Rakesh Bhanot : China still needs 100,000s of teachers
22:02:07 From David Heath : I have to go now. Thanks for the informative webinar.
22:02:17 From Vance Stevens : thanks David
22:02:31 From Ana Cristina Pratas : You’re right Nik and Vance as well, I.e. more and more demand for higher and higher qualifications (which are expensive and not everyone may have the opportunity to do a PhD etc)
22:02:59 From Michael Birch : Thank you Nik
22:03:05 From Nik Peachey : https://view.genial.ly/5ebc15ce2d0fc40d913fcf99
This is the link to Nik’s slides
22:03:07 From kelley : Thanks Nik
22:03:13 From Marilina Lonigro : Thanks for the interesting conversation! I have to go now!
22:03:18 From Andrew Howarth : Thanks Nik. Some great tips.
22:03:30 From Ana Cristina Pratas : Thank you Nik and everyone – very important issue
22:03:33 From Nesma Montaser : Thanks Nik.
22:03:51 From Michael Cotton : Thanks, Vance, thanks Nik a very helpful starter
22:03:56 From Steve Neufeld : thanks.
22:04:16 From Carmen ABL : Thank you Nik!
22:04:43 From Sarah Redbridge Institute : thanks Nik and Vance
22:05:15 From Jeff Magoto : Thanks, Nik and Vance!
22:05:39 From Milena Montalbano : thank you! lots of food for thought.

More about TALIN

TALIN  stands for Teaching and Learning in IsolatioN, https://tinyurl.com/talin2020

The idea for TALIN was prompted by suggestions in numerous cross-fertilizing communities of practice that there was needed a space where members of these CoPs could meet online and talk informally to one another about how they are dealing with changes in their personal and professional contexts and what they are doing to help others in this trying time of pandemic.

Learning2gether can host TALIN events in Zoom during times of isolation/lockdown if they are intended to be recorded and shared with the wider community, and if they take place between 02:00-14:00 UTC

TALIN events here are open to all and free to attend.

If you would like to propose an event or invite others to meet in conversation

1. Visit this page https://tinyurl.com/talin2020
2. Click on “Request Edit Access” to the left of your profile picture at the top of the page
3. Wait for approval
4. Write in your event on the schedule. Give the time in UTC if you can, and give the time in your location also as a double check on time

You can host the event yourself, but if you want Learning2gether to host it and promote it, please allow enough time to check that I am available, at least a few days in advance.

At the Virtual Round Table Conference May 8-9, 2020, Vance provided even more about TALIN here: https://bit.ly/talin2020 and https://youtu.be/iOYPkmWPAiY

Earlier Events

Mon 11 May 1300 UTC – TALIN hosted Karen Schwarze on Teaching Natural Language Processing in English Classes

https://learning2gether.net/2020/05/11/talin-hosts-karen-schwarze-on-teaching-natural-language-processing-in-english-classes/

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On Monday, May 11, at 1300 UTC, TALIN conducted a webinar where Karen Schwarze spoke to us about Teaching Natural Language Processing in English Classes. The event was conducted in Zoom but there was a problem with converting the recording, as explained below. At present I am hoping to resolve the issue with any assistance that Zoom might provide its paid Pro users.

English language/literature classes can be a great environment to introduce students to natural language processing (NLP). NLP is a subset of Machine Learning (ML), which is a subset of Artificial Intelligence (AI). Using NLP, computers can understand and respond to human written and verbal communication. Teaching basic NLP concepts can reinforce students’ understanding of English while exposing them to computer science.

• The curriculum Karen designed is available on her portfolio at https://karenschwarze.github.io/,
• Here are the slides she prepared to make this presentation
  https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1tLmGTempa6dQE9GncPoi6apFWE_h5D_QB__AJxR87S4/edit?usp=sharing

Karen’s Introduction on LinkedIn is better than the one above: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/karenlschwarze_codingeducation-naturallanguageprocessing-activity-6664285446450884608-PL3R

I’m very excited to give a talk about teaching NLP in the English classroom! For my fellow Californians, this is starting at 6 a.m. on Monday, May 11. If you’d like to start off your day with talking about Python, similes, and English grammar, I hope you’ll join the call 🙂 … Thank you to Vance Stevens and the TALIN community for hosting me!  #codingeducation #naturallanguageprocessing #englishlearning

In her presentation, Karen mentioned her work with https://www.tynker.com/

This event was posted to these Facebook Groups 

• Learning2gether – https://www.facebook.com/groups/learning2gether/
• Webheads in Action – https://www.facebook.com/groups/webheadsinaction/
• EVO Multiliteracies MOOC – https://www.facebook.com/groups/evomlit/
• Learning with Computers – https://www.facebook.com/groups/6577061586/
• TALIN – Teaching and Learning in IsolatioN – https://www.facebook.com/groups/talin2020

And was announced on Groups.io here

• https://groups.io/g/webheadsinaction/message/32575
• and https://groups.io/g/webheadsinaction/message/32585

and on LinkedIn at

• https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6665563840463405057/
• and https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6664285446450884608/

What almost happened to the recording? Eventual solution

Slap forehead

This problem came about when the session ended and I left the meeting. At this time, I was prompted to convert the recording, as always happens. The conversion bar came up and started indicating that conversion was in progress. This would take some time, perhaps half an hour.

Meanwhile Zoom was also prompting me to update Zoom, another process that could take a little time and is not always convenient to do. I decided to initiate that while waiting for the recording to convert to usable audio and video files.

In an ideal world, the Zoom updater might check to see if there were any critical processes ongoing before shutting down Zoom, or prompt me, are you sure you want to shut down Zoom at this time (since you have a conversion in progress). But the updater simply went into action, aborted my conversion abruptly, and shut down Zoom without any prompting or checks to see what the other side of the program was doing.

The program did leave me a message which remained on the screen after shutdown informing me that I could convert the file through the app interface / Meetings / recordings. I immediately pursued this option and found the raw files, but corruption may have occurred due to the abrupt abortion, and double clicking on the file that usually results in conversion this time evoked a standard Windows message asking me what program I wanted to use to open the file i had clicked on. Uh oh …

I attempted to contact Zoom. In the past there has been live chat available and the person on the other end has been able to help me recover my files. In these times of COVID-19, when Zoom is being offered free to millions to help them get their classes online, live chat has apparently been discontinued, and help desk sends you through an endless loop of FAQ files that bring you back to where you started no matter how you vary the path (because there is not enough variation).

I’m a fee-paying Pro user. There should be some way that pro users can get help ahead of the queue of free riders. But all I could do in this instance was raise the issue.

Pro User ticket filed with Zoom 

This is what I wrote on the ticket file May 11, 2020:

When I was converting the recording of this meeting I was prompted to update zoom. This aborted my recording. Now I can’t get it back.  Meeting ID: 433 888 485, initiated the recording at 2 am UTC, local recording. The icons are in the zoom folder 2020-05-11 21.03.32 TALIN – Teaching and Learning in IsolatioN 433888485. When  I double click on them they ask me what program I want to use to complete the process. They seem to have data (large files, screenshot https://www.screencast.com/t/ZnrlYWhL

Note the sizeable amount of data in the files on my disk, but lack of icons, meaning Windows cannot determine how to open these files

The files could have been corrupted. I hope not, but usually files in that folder are recoverable.

The eventual solution

Zoom never returned my call, but to while away time as I waited, I explored Windows. I went into the Program Files folders on the C: drive, but could not find a Zoom folder in either of them. I opened a Windows explorer window on My PC and typed Zoom in the search box. This pulled up a number of hits including to a Zoom folder in Documents, which is where the files I was trying to recover are stored, so I knew about that one, but there was also a Zoom folder in my user profile under AppData, in the Roaming folder.

I don’t know what you know about AppData, but if you go to your profile on a Windows C: drive and look at the folders there, you will not see AppData. To get to AppData, you need to click to the right of the path at the top of the window which gives you a folder view of where you are, in my case > This PC > Acer (C:)  > Users > Vance. Click to the right of that, and it turns to the DOS command line C:\Users\Vance. Now to the right of that, type in the backward slash AppData, so it looks like this C:\Users\Vance\AppData. Be sure to capitalize the A and the D, hit Enter, and now you are in AppData, and you see three folders there, Local, Locall.ow, and Roaming.

The Windows Explorer search on Zoom told me there was a Zoom folder in the Roaming folder of AppData, and sure enough it was there, so I browsed to that folder, C:\Users\Vance\AppData\Roaming\Zoom, and one of the folders there was called bin, so I opened that one.

There were fout executable files here. One of these might be the program that would convert the raw zoom data into usable audio and video files.

So in the first screen shot iin this section, https://www.screencast.com/t/wz9hGAuv, with the double-click to convert file selected (the one with the most data in it) where it asks, How do you want to open this file? you have to click on More Apps, none of which will be of any use, so scroll down to where it says “This PC”. Click there and browse to or just paste in C:\Users\yourUserName\AppData\Roaming\Zoom\bin, and click on the zTscoder icon, which I found by trial and errot was the one that does the conversions. Click ‘Apply’ at the bottom of the window, and now all files of that nature will be “associated”  with this app, so when you encounter one like this if you need it again, it will open with the correct app.

When I did that with the file shown in the last screen shot, it processed the conversion without further ado, and left me with video and audio files, both of which I have embedded at the top of this post. So, once again we squeak by 🙂

Coda

On May 26 I received an email from Zoom that said

If you no longer need assistance on ticket #5425638, please click Close My Ticket below. Otherwise, we will get back to you as soon as we can but please understand that this will take much longer than normal due to COVID-19.

There was a big orange button “below” that said “Close My Ticket”

I clicked there, left them this note, and referred them to this blog post if they want further information:

The problem and eventual solution is described in detail here. It tries to be fair about the stress Zoom must be under in providing its services to those in need during this time of pandemic, and that is to be commended. On the other hand paying Pro users are finding strikingly reduced levels of support

More about TALIN

TALIN stands for Teaching and Learning in IsolatioN, https://tinyurl.com/talin2020

The idea for TALIN was prompted by suggestions in numerous cross-fertilizing communities of practice that there was needed a space where members of these CoPs could meet online and talk informally to one another about how they are dealing with changes in their personal and professional contexts and what they are doing to help others in this trying time of pandemic.

Learning2gether can host TALIN events in Zoom during times of isolation/lockdown if they are intended to be recorded and shared with the wider community, and if they take place between 02:00-14:00 UTC

TALIN events here are open to all and free to attend.  If you would like to propose an event or invite others to meet in conversation

1. Visit this page https://tinyurl.com/talin2020
2. Click on “Request Edit Access” to the left of your profile picture at the top of the page
3. Wait for approval
4. Write in your event on the schedule. Give the time in UTC if you can, and give the time in your location also as a double check on time

You can host the event yourself, but if you want Learning2gether to host it and promote it, please allow enough time to check that I am available, at least a few days in advance.

After the Virtual Round Table Conference May 8-9, 2020, there’s even more about TALIN here:
https://bit.ly/talin2020 and https://youtu.be/iOYPkmWPAiY

Earlier Events

Sun 10 May Noon UTC Regular Webheads Weekly Revival Meeting 7 – repeats each Sunday

https://learning2gether.net/2020/05/10/regular-webheads-revival-7th-sunday-weekly-meeting-may-10-2020/

___________________________________________________________
This blog is written and maintained by Vance Stevens
You are free to share-alike and with attribution under https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/

The date of this update is May 26, 2020 22:30 UTC