The presenter demonstrates techniques that streamline correction and feedback on student writing utilizing Google Docs and voice input features native to tablet and mobile devices.
The workshop is in three parts.
The first part demonstrates giving feedback using Google Docs and shows video evidence of its effectiveness.
The second part shows how the same feedback can be given using voice tools, freeing the teacher to move among the students, speak into a handheld device, and have the spoken feedback appear as comments in the student’s Google Doc.
The third part shows how teachers can encourage writing fluency by speaking what students write on paper into Google Docs. The teacher returns the original paper with printouts of what the students wrote expressed in correct language. On the printouts are written suggestions for development of their ideas. The students revise in Google Docs from these suggestions. Subsequent revision cycles address both accuracy and fluency, but starting with a version of the student’s work which is not bogged down in errors from the outset.
Evidence of success with improving writing fluency will be presented and participants will come away from the workshop able to apply the technique in their own writing classes.
Here I am trying to get Google Docs to work on my iPad, and discovering after only a few awkward moments that I had neglected to connect the iPad to the GLoCALL conference wifi in Danang. Photo courtesy of Joseph V. Dias.
Once I had corrected the problem, when participants shared their Google Docs with me during the event, I was able to interact with them afterwards. Here is one of the interesting responses that I got in the comment thread of one of the Google Docs shared with me.
In one of the afternoon session, a Vietnamese presenter commented that the government was pushing Microsoft. Perhaps that is why participants weren’t creating and sharing Google Docs. They might not be all that familiar with it. Or maybe they aren’t that used to interactive workshops. I teach in Hong Kong and I know my local colleagues are still very teacher centred and not comfortable with this sort of student centred, interactive approach.
My response
In my past teaching post, we also had office 365 and I found it quite inferior to google docs. Also, I mentioned that I have records of every student I ever interacted with in my Google Drive, but my records of every student I ever interacted with in Office 365 are gone now that I am no longer in the enterprise system where the MS product was purchased. Also the students I was teaching in UAE were also not used to the close interaction over writing process but since that’s the way I did it they got on board and benefited.
Please note Minh’s admonition that the videos are not “public” – however when I paste the links below (from the post above) WordPress opens them automatically.
Opening Ceremony & Plenary Session #1
Plenary Session #2
Plenary Session #3
Plenary Session #4
GLoCALL presentations eventually make it into print
On Sunday Aug 4 Vance Stevens presented “Supporting student writing with the help of voice-to-text” at the 8th annual Moodle Moot Virtual Conference MMVC19, hosted, as always, by Nellie Deutsch. The MMVC19 presentation took place online in Zoom and Nellie uploaded the recording not long afterwards to this url, https://youtu.be/6QnTds__hf0 on YouTube:
Vance’s presentation includes a description of a technique for using voice to encourage revision from student writing begun on paper. The technique has the students share a Google Doc with the teacher but start their writing on paper in class. The teacher collects the papers and then reads them correctly into Google Docs using speech-to-text. The teacher makes printouts of what the students wrote expressed in correct language and writes on these printouts suggestions for revision and improvement of the papers. The paper printouts are returned to the students along with their original papers, and the students continue writing in Google Docs, for as many revisions as possible, now focused on whatever errors occur or re-occur.
Nellie posted on her Moodle site that we could access the live sessions of day 3 from:
From Bassoum Marmar to Everyone: 09:52 PM Hi! This is Besma from Tunisia
From Harshita K to Everyone: 09:52 PM Good evening from India
From Bassoum Marmar to Everyone: 09:52 PM Yes
From haifa aljuaid to Everyone: 09:52 PM yes
From Anna Grabowska to Everyone: 09:52 PM perfect
From Bassoum Marmar to Everyone: 09:53 PM I remember we met in Mahdia long ago
From Harshita K to Everyone: 09:55 PM Maybe its because of internet bandwidth
From Anna Grabowska to Everyone: 09:55 PM voice is perfect, I mean
From Me to Everyone: 09:59 PM Here is the URL of the workshop where I met Besma http://prosites-vstevens.homestead.com/files/efi/papers/tunisia2004/mahdia.htm
From Bassoum Marmar to Everyone: 09:59 PM Yes! long ago.
From Zahra Shafiee to Everyone: 10:01 PM Hi Vance, Nellie, and Everyone
From Helen Chenoby to Everyone: 10:02 PM Hi Everyone
From Dr. Nellie Deutsch to Everyone: 10:03 PM Hi Zahra You can go later. It’s in the conference area, too.
From Anna Grabowska to Everyone: 10:03 PM please put your link in chat
From Me to Everyone: 10:04 PM https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1DU67TWYqF2MxW0h36Js23upkTZKlw7oLsmVoi5nEUH8/edit?usp=sharing
From Laxmi Negi to Everyone: 10:04 PM thanks
From Anna Grabowska to Everyone: 10:04 PM Thank you
From Dr. Nellie Deutsch to Everyone: 10:05 PM Anna, can you share the link of the discussion form under Vance’s webinar on Day 3 on the Moodle? Thank you.
From Bassoum Marmar to Everyone: 10:06 PM Good!
From Anna Grabowska to Everyone: 10:07 PM Will do it Nellie
From Dr. Nellie Deutsch to Everyone: 10:07 PM Thank you, Anna
From Laxmi Negi to Me: (Privately) 10:07 PM Vance I wanted to upload my documents but could not do it kindly guide me
From Harshita K to Everyone: 10:08 PM Yes
From Dr. Nellie Deutsch to Everyone: 10:09 PM Google docs is amazing for language learning. There are so many Google add ons that you can use to help improve students’ writing and pronunciation, too.
From Hara to Everyone: 10:09 PM Hi Vance. this is Dr. Haraprasad I am a professor of Biotechnology. we have Google tools provided for us but have never tried to utilize the same. Hence wand to learn and optimise my skills
From Anna Grabowska to Everyone: 10:09 PM Done 🙂
From Dr. Nellie Deutsch to Everyone: 10:10 PM Google docs is great for collaborative learning. Anna, did you share the link?
From Anna Grabowska to Everyone: 10:11 PM Yes I did sharing https://moodle4teachers.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=40511
From Dr. Nellie Deutsch to Everyone: 10:13 PM I don’t see the link to the discussion forum, here, Anna. Sorry Thank you, Anna. Now, I see it. You can also add video conversations of Google docs.
From Anna Grabowska to Everyone: 10:13 PM Never tried but will
From Dr. Nellie Deutsch to Everyone: 10:14 PM Anna, but you need to use Chrome not Safari.
From Anna Grabowska to Everyone: 10:14 PM OK will try to remember
From Fatima Mohammed to Me: (Privately) 10:15 PM I sent you my Google doc. too late
From Bassoum Marmar to Everyone: 10:16 PM How can you see what all the students are doing ?
From Dr. Nellie Deutsch to Everyone: 10:18 PM Yes
From Fatima Mohammed to Everyone: 10:18 PM me too
From Lyuba Stoycheva to Everyone: 10:18 PM yes
From Zahra Shafiee to Everyone: 10:18 PM yes
From Harshita K to Everyone: 10:18 PM Yes
From Anna Grabowska to Everyone: 10:18 PM yes
From Amalia Tipiani to Everyone: 10:18 PM yes
From Anna Grabowska to Everyone: 10:21 PM I have tried…
From Amalia Tipiani to Everyone: 10:22 PM how? it is not clear for me how to do it with the phone?
From Dr. Nellie Deutsch to Everyone: 10:22 PM You record your voice.
From Anna Grabowska to Everyone: 10:23 PM super it works with mobile 🙂
From Dr. Nellie Deutsch to Everyone: 10:23 PM I love my phone and using Google docs from there.
From Hara to Everyone: 10:24 PM do I have to download Google docs to create an account
From Dr. Nellie Deutsch to Everyone: 10:24 PM So, the student can use their phone to respond.
From Bassoum Marmar to Everyone: 10:26 PM is the mike microphone icon on ggogle doc; document?
From Dr. Nellie Deutsch to Everyone: 10:26 PM Yes
From Fatima Mohammed to Everyone: 10:27 PM I shared you mine. where is it?
From Dr. Nellie Deutsch to Everyone: 10:28 PM Vance, why not use the mobile for everything? Why do students need to use a desktop? Fatima, did you share the doc with Vance’s email?
From Fatima Mohammed to Everyone: 10:28 PM yes
From Anna Grabowska to Everyone: 10:28 PM need some time to check how it works
From Amalia Tipiani to Everyone: 10:28 PM yes I don’t understand how to put my voice
From Dr. Nellie Deutsch to Everyone: 10:29 PM Amelia, you need to use a mobile device.
From Amalia Tipiani to Everyone: 10:29 PM I would like to know how to do it using the mobile phone because I don’t have an ipad
From Harshita K to Everyone: 10:29 PM Amalia you can download the googleDocs app on android phone
From Amalia Tipiani to Everyone: 10:30 PM thank you
From Anna Grabowska to Everyone: 10:30 PM good message Harshita Thanks
From Laxmi Negi to Me: (Privately) 10:31 PM I just share a document with you
From Bassoum Marmar to Everyone: 10:32 PM You mean students send through google docs and the teacher comments through i PAD?
From Dr. Nellie Deutsch to Everyone: 10:32 PM I just used it on my phone. It works
From Laxmi Negi to Everyone: 10:33 PM thanks vance
From Dr. Nellie Deutsch to Everyone: 10:33 PM You need to open the doc on your phone and then speak.
From Laxmi Negi to Everyone: 10:33 PM but explain a little more
From Zahra Shafiee to Everyone: 10:33 PM I cannot find a mic icon on the comment box.
From Laxmi Negi to Everyone: 10:34 PM but what to do when I have to deal with more no of students at the same time
From Zahra Shafiee to Everyone: 10:34 PM thanks, I got it yes
From Bassoum Marmar to Everyone: 10:34 PM OK I see
From Laxmi Negi to Everyone: 10:35 PM google docs needs more time
From Dr. Nellie Deutsch to Everyone: 10:36 PM The same mic icon appears on you phone. You can also use your watch. Love it, Vance.
From Bassoum Marmar to Everyone: 10:36 PM Go ahead please
From Laxmi Negi to Everyone: 10:36 PM same here Nellie
From Dr. Nellie Deutsch to Everyone: 10:37 PM It’s great, thank you, Vance
From Viviana Diaz to Everyone: 10:37 PM Sorry I´m very late.
From Dr. Nellie Deutsch to Everyone: 10:37 PM I hate my iPad. I prefer my iPhone.
From Laxmi Negi to Me: (Privately) 10:37 PM I didn’t get my answer Vance yet
From Bassoum Marmar to Everyone: 10:38 PM Hi Laxmi! Did we meet in Morocco for the I-earn conference?
From Judy Wong to Everyone: 10:39 PM I prefer paper… I don’t i* anything 😉
From Dr. Nellie Deutsch to Everyone: 10:39 PM Judy, I do both. I also need paper writing, but screen is fine, too.
From Laxmi Negi to Everyone: 10:40 PM no Bassoum, but I would surely love to meet you someday
From Dr. Nellie Deutsch to Everyone: 10:41 PM My handwriting is very poor nowadays. Great idea, Vance.
From Hara to Everyone: 10:41 PM Vance mail I’d to share the Google docs file
From Anna Grabowska to Everyone: 10:41 PM Exactly mine
From Laxmi Negi to Everyone: 10:41 PM lucky I have got very good handwriting
From Dr. Nellie Deutsch to Everyone: 10:42 PM Hara, it’s in the discussion in the conference platform. https://moodle4teachers.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=40511
From Laxmi Negi to Everyone: 10:42 PM sounds good vance
From Amalia Tipiani to Everyone: 10:43 PM Thank you I have already done it in my phone. I have understood how to do it.
From Bassoum Marmar to Everyone: 10:44 PM This is handwritten Do you scan it to put on google docs?
From Dr. Nellie Deutsch to Everyone: 10:44 PM He speaks it. So students improve their audio skills.
From Anna Grabowska to Everyone: 10:45 PM Great approach
From Dr. Nellie Deutsch to Everyone: 10:45 PM I’m for accuracy.
From Judy Wong to Everyone: 10:45 PM Great idea!
From Dr. Nellie Deutsch to Me: (Privately) 10:46 PM Vance, your time was up 2 minutes ago.
From Viviana Diaz to Everyone: 10:47 PM yes
From Bassoum Marmar to Everyone: 10:47 PM yes
From Laxmi Negi to Everyone: 10:47 PM yes
From Dr. Nellie Deutsch to Me: (Privately) 10:47 PM 3 minutes ago
From Laxmi Negi to Everyone: 10:47 PM vance
From Anna Grabowska to Everyone: 10:49 PM Thank you Vance
From Zahra Shafiee to Everyone: 10:49 PM Thanks for your great presentation Vance.
From Harshita K to Everyone: 10:49 PM Thank you
From Judy Wong to Everyone: 10:49 PM Nice Vance!
From Viviana Diaz to Everyone: 10:49 PM I´ll watch the recording because I´ve missed almost the whole presentation. Thanks a lot Vance
From Bassoum Marmar to Everyone: 10:49 PM very interesting indeed!
Announcements of this Learning2gether event on Facebook Groups
If planning to attend, please help me simulate a class for the workshop by doing this:
– Create a document in Google Docs
– Title it MMVC19 and your name
– Briefly, in just two or three sentences, introduce yourself, tell me why you are here, and what you hope to learn in this workshop
– Share your document, for editing, with vancestev which is my Google account.
Thank you, and hope to see you there.
After the event, I posted this notice in the same spaces
Nellie says, in a related post, “The 8th annual Free MoodleMoot Virtual Conference (MMVC19) for 2019 will take place from August 2-4, 2019. The purpose of the conference is for educators to engage in learning best practices and challenges involved in teaching and learning face-to-face and online (blended and fully online learning) using Moodle and other technologies. The theme of MMVC19 is teaching and learning with and without technology.”
Partipants must enrol in the MMVC19 Moodle site to get access to the live sessions, content before and after the conference, your badges and final certificate for reflecting and presenting.
The Facebook page invites you to register yourself at the Zoom meetings.
These meetings appear to have taken place July 14. I just discovered that I was sent a message on Twitter July 9 inviting me to this meeting. I only saw it a week later, my bad 😦
Ah, the courses themselves are not free
I wish Nellie and her presenters all success and in no way disagree with paid courses or fair compensation to presenters. This is a step in the right direction, and is further evidence of Nellie Deutsch’s commitment to both her network of presenters and to continuing to provide both free and paid content to their audience 🙂
July 20 1300 UTC NNEST webinar on The NNEST Movement – Foundations and New Directions
The purpose of the webinar is to (re)introduce members to the NNEST movement and to explore the different theoretical perspectives framing the study of marginalization and privilege in ELT. There are three guest speakers:
Dr. Lia Kahmi-Stein, California State University
Yasemin Tezgiden, Winner of the 2019 Outstanding Paper in NNEST Issues, Middle East Technical University
Seyma Toker, NNEST IS newsletter Co-Editor, Georgetown University
THey will address topics such as “what is native speakerism?” “how is the term ‘native speaker’ understood?” “what should I know about how people position themselves and are positioned by others as ‘native’ or ‘nonnative’ speakers?” “what new scholarship has emerged in our field?”why is knowing more about native speakerism important for my role as an ELT professional?”
As she has announced to all and encouraged all to share, I believe that all are welcome at this event, that it is not restricted to TESOL members